Just looking for a solid Muay Thai training facility in the Northern VA area. Around Arlington and Alexandria to be exact.|||Well, I know that Amir Sadollah trains at a gym in VA, but it is not near you. Check
http://fightresource.com/
It will give you a list.
Best way to spot if it is a legit gym is:
1. Look at the coach list, are they well decorated?
2. Any pros train there? Maybe not but its a good sign.
3. check it out. most gyms allow you a trial period.
4. price? make sure they dont over charge.
5. demenor. Who trains there? Punk kids or people who you can be friends with.|||Theres one in Manassas, which isnt too far from arlington...Vanguard Gym. OR
Muay Thai Association U.S.A. Suriyasak Thai Boxing Gym; this is in Springfield...also not too far from Arlington or Alexandria.|||for me is Muay Thai gym...
Friday, November 18, 2011
What should take up, Jiu Jitsu or Muay Thai?
I was a Wrestler in High school for 3 years. I was pretty good, went to regionals all three years (though never made it to States)
Between Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai, Which do you think would benefit me the most in an MMA fight.
OR should I do both? I only have around 4-5 hours a week to train, Is that enough time to cross-train efficiently? Or would it be better to just concentrate one? If so.. Which?|||Ju Jitsu|||personally, I jus had to make the same decision, and i chose muay thai, i had a striking background, and thought it would get me into the swing of things easier, my time is limited also, so i am planning to switch from muay thia to bjj in 6 to 8 months... so with your wresteling background, maybe the oposite?|||Well you probably need to get some standup fighting in. Learning how to strike is something you cant go without if you are entering MMA. Since you have a background in some sort of ground game you should get what you can in the striking department. 4-5 hrs a week to train for a fight is also asking to get seriously hurt. I dont know if you have something scheduled but you need way more time than that if you want to train seriously for something.|||Since you already have grappling experience, jiu jitsu will be an easier transition.
I%26#039;d recommend you take both, but time is limited, I%26#039;d recommend you try both, and decide which one you%26#039;ll concentrate with.
good luck!|||hands down if you are just going to pick one style over the other, i would pick bjj.....although both are beneficial
Between Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai, Which do you think would benefit me the most in an MMA fight.
OR should I do both? I only have around 4-5 hours a week to train, Is that enough time to cross-train efficiently? Or would it be better to just concentrate one? If so.. Which?|||Ju Jitsu|||personally, I jus had to make the same decision, and i chose muay thai, i had a striking background, and thought it would get me into the swing of things easier, my time is limited also, so i am planning to switch from muay thia to bjj in 6 to 8 months... so with your wresteling background, maybe the oposite?|||Well you probably need to get some standup fighting in. Learning how to strike is something you cant go without if you are entering MMA. Since you have a background in some sort of ground game you should get what you can in the striking department. 4-5 hrs a week to train for a fight is also asking to get seriously hurt. I dont know if you have something scheduled but you need way more time than that if you want to train seriously for something.|||Since you already have grappling experience, jiu jitsu will be an easier transition.
I%26#039;d recommend you take both, but time is limited, I%26#039;d recommend you try both, and decide which one you%26#039;ll concentrate with.
good luck!|||hands down if you are just going to pick one style over the other, i would pick bjj.....although both are beneficial
Is there a grading system in Muay Thai?
Also, I%26#039;m considering going to the Tiger Muay Thai training camp in Phuket for a month next summer. Can anybody tell me there experience with that camp?|||Nope just like wrestling your either a wrestler or a good wrestler.|||Actually no there isn%26#039;t however they do use titles to define rolls of the instructors within their schools. Some schools have instituted using the head dress in different colors to differentiate the level of the fighters but that is not traditional in real Muay Thai training.|||Firstly there is no grading system in muay tai, as you just get better and better, and ive been to that camp, its really hard work but it pays of its really practical and fun aswell.|||Not in Phuket no, but there are lots of excellent gyms all over Thailand, I trained for a couple of weeks just round the corner from Khao San road in Bangkok. And no, there isn%26#039;t a traditional grading system.
Is Muay Thai the most brutal standup discipline & is there anyone who trains harder?
Muay Thai vs. other disciplines, who wins and why? I have seen quite a few Muay Thai fighters fighting other disciplines and it was no contest. The Thai fighters walked right through their opponents with devastating leg kicks while easily absorbing the assault of their opponents (A flying leg kick just isn%26#039;t the same as a baseball bat (shin) to the ribs). Fortunately for their opponents clinching and elbows were not allowed. As for training, is there anyone who trains/strenghtens the body and mind like Muay Thai fighters?|||What you are trying to imply is that Muay Thai is the best standup art.
Now: Muay Thai is one of the most aggressive arts period, and it has good training, but the direct crushing power is not always a person%26#039;s goal: That%26#039;s why there%26#039;s so many attributes to describe fighting. If your opponent has better crushing power than you, you have to change your staretgy: It doesn%26#039;t mean they are more skilled than you on all fighting attributes, and if you think carefully, you might find a way past that.
If you can break a baseball bat with your shin: Cool, break a leg while you%26#039;re at it if you want, but if someone can%26#039;t, you can%26#039;t insinuate that they are less of a fighter because of it. There%26#039;s thousands of strategies, and thousands of points on the body that can be attacked, and while hardness is usually a good method, a lot of people do well with circular striking, softer but still linear, and even the philosophy of striking hard on soft places, and soft on hard areas for example. Fighting in a ring is complex: Survival in the streets is even more complex.
I%26#039;ve learned just a small bit of Muay Thai, but I don%26#039;t go either way in saying that it is the best or it is the worst. I know it%26#039;s a grand standup style (It%26#039;s seriously really good... I wish I could train in it again to add to my standup experience) for self-defense and competition, but again: The training has a lot to do with how good it is.
As for other disciplines: Not necessarily arts, but there%26#039;s many styles that adopt training that is at the same level, or that may exceed it. Seidokan and Kyokushin Karate, for example, both have Muay Thai elements within them (And they are great styles as well). On the other hand, Capoeira training isn%26#039;t directly based around fighting (%26quot;Martial Acrobatic Dance%26quot;), but it is arguably the most physical martial art.
Traditonal Karate and Kung Fu classes sometimes adopt iron body (And/or Iron Palm Training), which on the basis of kicking may not be as good as desensitizing the nerves by kicking a tree (Or even a punching bag [I contend that the training of those arts that is intense usually deals with strong leg conditioning, but a more poweful hand conditioning: You don%26#039;t usually kick a makiwara board, but you CAN for example]), but with enough training, and the right person, they can stand up well.
It heavily deals with the practitioner, but Muay Thai starts strong, and finishes strong. You may not find in that in some schools of other styles (Which may or may not be a bad thing, when you consider how different we all are) due to many things. You don%26#039;t see children and the elderly taking Muay Thai too often, but do you see that in San Shou Kung Fu (By the way: Another style that has the potential)? What about Karate?
Muay Thai is a great standup art, and it has some of the best training, but no style is ultimate. And speaking of kicking:
Jeet Kune Do kicking is based around the combination of the %26quot;Baseball bat%26quot; wave style of Muay Thai, and the more Japanese/Chinese/Korean style kicking. The combination of both elements exist on a level, so that you have the precision to hit a small area like a hammer. A baseball bat to the ribs: Great attack. A precise strike to the ribs: Also a great attack. You have to think about those things, and the intent of a person, before you make judgment calls. I%26#039;m personally more of a subduction man myself, but x person might want a knockout (Or even death...), y might want to do enough to escape a situation, and z may want to throw and/or apply a submission/joint lock/joint manipulation. There%26#039;s way too many variables to simply say one style beats the rest. We%26#039;re just flooded with some schools that don%26#039;t have the best training these days: That%26#039;s not style dependent.
Don%26#039;t forget Muay Boran either! :p|||um, shaolin monks train harder. they train everyday by hitting the abdomens, the head, the shins, and also implies elbows, knees, and other things. though many people dont know of this.|||boxing is fair brutal i guess it depends on who is fighting some people are just nuts if u know what i mean|||Aside: Muay Thai is a very agressive and offensive fighting style. And it can be very effective. But it also takes a heavy toll on the people who practice it. Today%26#039;s great Muay Thai figher at 22 is tomorrows old man on crutches at 32.|||well it is pretty effective and a popular choice among many mma fighters but can i say its the flat out best? like you probably hard it depends on the person. san shou is becoming a more widely accepted form of kickboxing, i hear yaw yan is making its way into mma, kyokushin: style georges st pierre does check out the guy who created it mas oyama hes a bad man.
also one of the most feared strikers in mma crocop doesnt use muay thai and his kicks devastates almost anyone he connects with
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NoBiueeRpiI
p.s. i love thai boxing so dont think im being bias against thai boxing|||I%26#039;m sure there is a style that beats muay thai, but maybe not because it is better but rather because it plays on muay thai%26#039;s weaknesses. I doubt there is any one ultimate style, every one i know of has primary focuses, so as long as you are trained in a style that exploits the primary weakness of a style you can beat the mainstream of the figters in the style. As for what you are saying about muay thai stomping throgh the others, the only reason it would do that is because the other fighters were unskilled or only focused on their favorite moves... i.e. TKD focuses on kicks, muay thai kicks legs out, an unskilled aikido person might only rely on whatever type of grapples and throws they do rather than doing strikes and taking advantage of the situation when they can do whatever it is they do, I%26#039;ve watched a lot of muay thai wins over other styles and all the guys in the other styles were just trying to focus on their favorite moves. you said somethin a flying kick... if your kick is in the air, IMHO it is going to be a heck of a lot weaker than a grounded kick because you have nothing to get leverage and push off with. I%26#039;ve had people do flying kicks on me and they all just felt like pushes because basicly the people were just pushing off me, while if you are on the ground you have something keeping you in place so your hit goes forward instead of sending you backwards... and I%26#039;m not pretending to be an expert this is all just simple logic. back to the thing about no best styles... some of my friends can beat friends i cant beat in a fight, but i can beat the firends who beat the other friends... I.E. my techniques keep distance and use my opponents momentum against them, my friend nathan is a lot stronger than me and stands up straight for most of his moves until he gets yme to the ground, so he has a good strong base and i cant do didly squat... once on the ground his strength and groundfighting skills beat me. another friend, ryan, uses his weight against people. he weighs almost twice as much as me, so while he tries to use his weight to bring me down he does things like launching himself forward at me, so i pull and he falls flat on his face and i choke him out... but my friend nathan pushes so he just gets bowled over and ryan just uses his weight instead of strength (this is a 280 lb guy, nathan is 170, I%26#039;m 160, once he is on top of us we dont stand a chance) to roll nathan on his side then just puts all his weight down which puts a ton of pressure on nathans chest and nathan taps out. ryan cant get me on the ground so i ebat ryan, ryan beats nathan, nathan beats me. get it kind of?
EDIT: and each of us has our favorite moves.... mine is the rear naked chokehold, nathans is an arm bar, and ryans is that chest one i was tellin u about.
Now: Muay Thai is one of the most aggressive arts period, and it has good training, but the direct crushing power is not always a person%26#039;s goal: That%26#039;s why there%26#039;s so many attributes to describe fighting. If your opponent has better crushing power than you, you have to change your staretgy: It doesn%26#039;t mean they are more skilled than you on all fighting attributes, and if you think carefully, you might find a way past that.
If you can break a baseball bat with your shin: Cool, break a leg while you%26#039;re at it if you want, but if someone can%26#039;t, you can%26#039;t insinuate that they are less of a fighter because of it. There%26#039;s thousands of strategies, and thousands of points on the body that can be attacked, and while hardness is usually a good method, a lot of people do well with circular striking, softer but still linear, and even the philosophy of striking hard on soft places, and soft on hard areas for example. Fighting in a ring is complex: Survival in the streets is even more complex.
I%26#039;ve learned just a small bit of Muay Thai, but I don%26#039;t go either way in saying that it is the best or it is the worst. I know it%26#039;s a grand standup style (It%26#039;s seriously really good... I wish I could train in it again to add to my standup experience) for self-defense and competition, but again: The training has a lot to do with how good it is.
As for other disciplines: Not necessarily arts, but there%26#039;s many styles that adopt training that is at the same level, or that may exceed it. Seidokan and Kyokushin Karate, for example, both have Muay Thai elements within them (And they are great styles as well). On the other hand, Capoeira training isn%26#039;t directly based around fighting (%26quot;Martial Acrobatic Dance%26quot;), but it is arguably the most physical martial art.
Traditonal Karate and Kung Fu classes sometimes adopt iron body (And/or Iron Palm Training), which on the basis of kicking may not be as good as desensitizing the nerves by kicking a tree (Or even a punching bag [I contend that the training of those arts that is intense usually deals with strong leg conditioning, but a more poweful hand conditioning: You don%26#039;t usually kick a makiwara board, but you CAN for example]), but with enough training, and the right person, they can stand up well.
It heavily deals with the practitioner, but Muay Thai starts strong, and finishes strong. You may not find in that in some schools of other styles (Which may or may not be a bad thing, when you consider how different we all are) due to many things. You don%26#039;t see children and the elderly taking Muay Thai too often, but do you see that in San Shou Kung Fu (By the way: Another style that has the potential)? What about Karate?
Muay Thai is a great standup art, and it has some of the best training, but no style is ultimate. And speaking of kicking:
Jeet Kune Do kicking is based around the combination of the %26quot;Baseball bat%26quot; wave style of Muay Thai, and the more Japanese/Chinese/Korean style kicking. The combination of both elements exist on a level, so that you have the precision to hit a small area like a hammer. A baseball bat to the ribs: Great attack. A precise strike to the ribs: Also a great attack. You have to think about those things, and the intent of a person, before you make judgment calls. I%26#039;m personally more of a subduction man myself, but x person might want a knockout (Or even death...), y might want to do enough to escape a situation, and z may want to throw and/or apply a submission/joint lock/joint manipulation. There%26#039;s way too many variables to simply say one style beats the rest. We%26#039;re just flooded with some schools that don%26#039;t have the best training these days: That%26#039;s not style dependent.
Don%26#039;t forget Muay Boran either! :p|||um, shaolin monks train harder. they train everyday by hitting the abdomens, the head, the shins, and also implies elbows, knees, and other things. though many people dont know of this.|||boxing is fair brutal i guess it depends on who is fighting some people are just nuts if u know what i mean|||Aside: Muay Thai is a very agressive and offensive fighting style. And it can be very effective. But it also takes a heavy toll on the people who practice it. Today%26#039;s great Muay Thai figher at 22 is tomorrows old man on crutches at 32.|||well it is pretty effective and a popular choice among many mma fighters but can i say its the flat out best? like you probably hard it depends on the person. san shou is becoming a more widely accepted form of kickboxing, i hear yaw yan is making its way into mma, kyokushin: style georges st pierre does check out the guy who created it mas oyama hes a bad man.
also one of the most feared strikers in mma crocop doesnt use muay thai and his kicks devastates almost anyone he connects with
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NoBiueeRpiI
p.s. i love thai boxing so dont think im being bias against thai boxing|||I%26#039;m sure there is a style that beats muay thai, but maybe not because it is better but rather because it plays on muay thai%26#039;s weaknesses. I doubt there is any one ultimate style, every one i know of has primary focuses, so as long as you are trained in a style that exploits the primary weakness of a style you can beat the mainstream of the figters in the style. As for what you are saying about muay thai stomping throgh the others, the only reason it would do that is because the other fighters were unskilled or only focused on their favorite moves... i.e. TKD focuses on kicks, muay thai kicks legs out, an unskilled aikido person might only rely on whatever type of grapples and throws they do rather than doing strikes and taking advantage of the situation when they can do whatever it is they do, I%26#039;ve watched a lot of muay thai wins over other styles and all the guys in the other styles were just trying to focus on their favorite moves. you said somethin a flying kick... if your kick is in the air, IMHO it is going to be a heck of a lot weaker than a grounded kick because you have nothing to get leverage and push off with. I%26#039;ve had people do flying kicks on me and they all just felt like pushes because basicly the people were just pushing off me, while if you are on the ground you have something keeping you in place so your hit goes forward instead of sending you backwards... and I%26#039;m not pretending to be an expert this is all just simple logic. back to the thing about no best styles... some of my friends can beat friends i cant beat in a fight, but i can beat the firends who beat the other friends... I.E. my techniques keep distance and use my opponents momentum against them, my friend nathan is a lot stronger than me and stands up straight for most of his moves until he gets yme to the ground, so he has a good strong base and i cant do didly squat... once on the ground his strength and groundfighting skills beat me. another friend, ryan, uses his weight against people. he weighs almost twice as much as me, so while he tries to use his weight to bring me down he does things like launching himself forward at me, so i pull and he falls flat on his face and i choke him out... but my friend nathan pushes so he just gets bowled over and ryan just uses his weight instead of strength (this is a 280 lb guy, nathan is 170, I%26#039;m 160, once he is on top of us we dont stand a chance) to roll nathan on his side then just puts all his weight down which puts a ton of pressure on nathans chest and nathan taps out. ryan cant get me on the ground so i ebat ryan, ryan beats nathan, nathan beats me. get it kind of?
EDIT: and each of us has our favorite moves.... mine is the rear naked chokehold, nathans is an arm bar, and ryans is that chest one i was tellin u about.
Know of any good muay thai school in Puerto Rico?
Im not talking about western kickboxing, i mean thailand muay thai.|||sorry maybe underground ur better off looking for a tae kwon do place there aint realy a muay thai place yet|||Go drink some rum and do some freestyle reggeton...if you can%26#039;t sing, that%26#039;s ok cause you can%26#039;t understand a thing they say anyway, and it%26#039;s all the same...don%26#039;t forget to add stupid sirens to the background...why does that %26quot;music%26quot; always have sirens? you%26#039;re better off investing in a trip to thailand than finding a good school in puerto rico!
Can i major in Pharmacy while practicing Muay Thai?
I want a college degree to support myself as well as i want a rock hard body just like that of Muay Thai Fighters. I want to train on Muay Thai extensively. can i do that?|||Muay Thai practicioners are generally accountants, not pharmacists, so no.|||no reason you cant do both as long as you make time.|||No. Study Mixed Martial Arts %26amp; Crafts instead.|||no those two styles dont mix well.
What martial arts do you think could match up with muay thai? ?
Full Contact, one on one, opponents of equal skill. What styles could face off against muay thai? Also consider muay thai%26#039;s nasty knee and elbow strikes. |||ANY. Basically the long answer is the standard %26quot;its the person, not the style%26quot; thing. The biggest factor is the attitude towards teaching at each school. If the focus is for tourny fighting, tourny fighters is what you get. If you teach your students that all fights go to the ground, then that is what they will think. And, to get back on point, if you know that most styles have nasty knees and elbows, the knee and elbows from muay thai are just like other styles. If you end up in a school that teaches solid techniques and application, you should be able to hold your own against anyone of the same skill.
Muay Thai doesn%26#039;t hold the patent on dishing out hurt.
|||Rather than give you a totally unhelpful answer such as %26quot;it%26#039;s the person, not the style%26quot; type, you can look at what has made Muay Thai so successful:
Basically, the reason why the style works so well is the emphasis that is placed on sparring, the competition rules, and the training methods (bag and pad work, the camps system, body conditioning... etc).
There are a couple of well-known styles that compare well such as Kyokushin karate and sanda/san shou, and some more obscure styles such as savate and bokator.
In my opinion, western boxing can also compare fairly well, though a western boxer would need to add a couple of kicks to his/her arsenal and -more importantly- would have to learn to defend against kicks in order to prepare for a match up against a thai boxer.
|||As mentioned Kyokoshin karate and Chinese Sanshou are both very similar. In fact SanShou fighters regularly beat Muay Thai fighters.
I also do not know where the notion that muay thai is the only style that has knees and elbows. Okinawan karate such as Shoryn-Ryu, Goju-Ryu, and Isshin-Ryu all incorporate knees, elbows, and low kicks, just like Muay Thai. Okinawan karate also teaches to fight in a clinch. Muay Thai is just more widely recognized because of the fact is is popular in the UFC and MMA competition, and this is mainly due to the fact that it is much faster to get to a higher level then most other styles.|||Jeet Kun Do might match up well in a street fight. However, smashing someone in the trachea with nunchucks might be a little extreme for an MMA bout. In a MMA or NHB fight, Judo or Sambo with a little boxing mixed in would probably be my choice. Stand up styles can%26#039;t really handle the abuse to the legs and wrestlers are too likely to eat a straight punch or a knee coming in, so you%26#039;d really need something in the middle range.|||like mentioned earlier any art if the person is well trained and taught realistic fighting can go up against Muay Thai. Also consider knees and elbows are NOT exclusive to Muay Thai.
Anyways Kyokushin Karate and San Shou are often set up against Muay Thai to see which style is a %26quot;better%26quot; striking art.|||It depends on how good the fighter is? It takes more then elbows and knees to win a fight.
I once saw this fat kid at a train station fend against 3 attackers and won. The fat kid just struck out when they started mouthing of at him. The fat kid took them by shock and negated their aggresion. The fat kid walked away and the 3 wimps stood their looking like shocked rape victims. |||any of tehm use differnt arts, and creat your own fighting style, that is what mma is all about creativity
Muay Thai doesn%26#039;t hold the patent on dishing out hurt.
|||Rather than give you a totally unhelpful answer such as %26quot;it%26#039;s the person, not the style%26quot; type, you can look at what has made Muay Thai so successful:
Basically, the reason why the style works so well is the emphasis that is placed on sparring, the competition rules, and the training methods (bag and pad work, the camps system, body conditioning... etc).
There are a couple of well-known styles that compare well such as Kyokushin karate and sanda/san shou, and some more obscure styles such as savate and bokator.
In my opinion, western boxing can also compare fairly well, though a western boxer would need to add a couple of kicks to his/her arsenal and -more importantly- would have to learn to defend against kicks in order to prepare for a match up against a thai boxer.
|||As mentioned Kyokoshin karate and Chinese Sanshou are both very similar. In fact SanShou fighters regularly beat Muay Thai fighters.
I also do not know where the notion that muay thai is the only style that has knees and elbows. Okinawan karate such as Shoryn-Ryu, Goju-Ryu, and Isshin-Ryu all incorporate knees, elbows, and low kicks, just like Muay Thai. Okinawan karate also teaches to fight in a clinch. Muay Thai is just more widely recognized because of the fact is is popular in the UFC and MMA competition, and this is mainly due to the fact that it is much faster to get to a higher level then most other styles.|||Jeet Kun Do might match up well in a street fight. However, smashing someone in the trachea with nunchucks might be a little extreme for an MMA bout. In a MMA or NHB fight, Judo or Sambo with a little boxing mixed in would probably be my choice. Stand up styles can%26#039;t really handle the abuse to the legs and wrestlers are too likely to eat a straight punch or a knee coming in, so you%26#039;d really need something in the middle range.|||like mentioned earlier any art if the person is well trained and taught realistic fighting can go up against Muay Thai. Also consider knees and elbows are NOT exclusive to Muay Thai.
Anyways Kyokushin Karate and San Shou are often set up against Muay Thai to see which style is a %26quot;better%26quot; striking art.|||It depends on how good the fighter is? It takes more then elbows and knees to win a fight.
I once saw this fat kid at a train station fend against 3 attackers and won. The fat kid just struck out when they started mouthing of at him. The fat kid took them by shock and negated their aggresion. The fat kid walked away and the 3 wimps stood their looking like shocked rape victims. |||any of tehm use differnt arts, and creat your own fighting style, that is what mma is all about creativity
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