I heard that hitting you shins with a stick can do more damage then good. Same with rolling a hard stick up and down the shin. Apparently those are rumored conditioning methods. Are there any confirmed and proven shin conditioning methods that won%26#039;t bring harm in the future?|||Take a bakers rolling pin and use that but start out lightly and like anything else you are not used to, take it slow and progress as your tolerence allows. |||Yes there are: forget about banana trees, rolling pins... etc, and get yourself a heavy bag. While it is relatively gentle on your shins, repetition is the key, and after a few hundred kicks per session, you will reap the benefits.
Also, not only does it condition your shins, it also helps you perfect your technique, and provides a cardio workout.
It is the only conditioning method muay thai fighters and pro MMAers use, and if it is good enough for them, it%26#039;s likely to be good enough for you.
While Muay Thai fighters may mostly retire in their 20s, it is not due specifically to their conditioning methods, unlike what another poster says, but rather to the frequency of their fights... It is not uncommun for them to total 300/500 fights in their careers.
And while they might retire young, an awful lot still practice the sport and go on to become trainers, while suffering no ill effects in their old age (just look at Master Sken in the UK for example!)|||People who hit their shins with weird objects or roll stuff on them are fake and bogus, and it is dumb. Period. Your shins get conditioned from training. Just keep training and your shins will get conditioned with time, from bagwork, padwork and from sparring.|||Just kick a heavy bag, those things really suck after a while since they%26#039;re packed so densely with sand or whatever. Keep kicking and you%26#039;ll get better form, strength, endurance, muscle memory, flexibility etc. and toughen your shins too.|||I%26#039;d recommend hitting the heavy bag and drinking milk. Conditioning your bones can be very dangerous, most Thai fighters retire in their mid 20s from so much conditioning, so take it easy.|||i agree with the guy above about the rolling pin kicking the thai bag can definitely help when you first start shin conditioning repetition is key
Saturday, May 15, 2010
What should i do if i have a muay thai fight coming up in 3 months but i still need help with my boxing skills
i condition myslef everyday at my muay thai gym and the local ymca. i%26#039;m considering taking some boxing classes but i%26#039;m not sure.|||boxing will help but i think you should stick with thai for now and train harder and more often,if you need to work on your hands your kru would know this and be working on your hands.wait until youve had your fight before you consider training in something else.|||neh, if it%26#039;s muay thai match only, stick with thai only. Your trainers know the form well and it%26#039;s that way because it%26#039;s been improved over centuries and for a very specific scenario. Don%26#039;t be quick to think boxers, who don%26#039;t have worry about calf kicks and knees from clinch, will give the insight you need for victory. Yes, they do fight with a different form and method but for a very different scenario and boxing too has been perfected over a course of many years but mainly for the purpose of fighting in the ring against another boxer.
If it%26#039;s not MMA, let the boxers box and the kickboxers kickbox.|||DEFINITELY take up boxing. Try to find a trainer who can specialize the boxing skills for Muay Thai.
Many MT fighters are much better at kicking...actually, the more westernized boxers are actually boxing more...but, regardless, your hands are generally quicker than your legs. Until you get to an elite level - maybe.
Using boxing skills can help you in the clinch. Your knees are more powerful, but definitely further range from the head. With the right hands, you can have more explosive power from the top part of your body..it might even help with your elbow strikes.
If you overwhelm most kickboxers with hand combos, they rarely get their legs going. And, that way, your strongest weapon (legs) can become your secondary weapon...and your hands won%26#039;t fare too bad their selves.
Just make sure you get comfortable with closing the distance. That%26#039;s alright though, it%26#039;ll teach you how to deal with taller opponents. You%26#039;ll definitely be a lot more comfortable on the inside.|||Why not take some boxing classes, it can only help, you%26#039;re a skiiled MT practitioner so you know that there is no harm in learning more.|||Sounds like a good idea. Boxing classes will probably help ALOT with your boxing. Since they practice--y%26#039;know-- boxing..in boxing classes. ;-)|||well if you know any other martial arts like say karate, then apply what you learn about how to punch in karate to muay thai... that might make up for boxing....|||No harm in cross training...GO FOR IT! Good Luck.|||try it, it won%26#039;t hurt.
If it%26#039;s not MMA, let the boxers box and the kickboxers kickbox.|||DEFINITELY take up boxing. Try to find a trainer who can specialize the boxing skills for Muay Thai.
Many MT fighters are much better at kicking...actually, the more westernized boxers are actually boxing more...but, regardless, your hands are generally quicker than your legs. Until you get to an elite level - maybe.
Using boxing skills can help you in the clinch. Your knees are more powerful, but definitely further range from the head. With the right hands, you can have more explosive power from the top part of your body..it might even help with your elbow strikes.
If you overwhelm most kickboxers with hand combos, they rarely get their legs going. And, that way, your strongest weapon (legs) can become your secondary weapon...and your hands won%26#039;t fare too bad their selves.
Just make sure you get comfortable with closing the distance. That%26#039;s alright though, it%26#039;ll teach you how to deal with taller opponents. You%26#039;ll definitely be a lot more comfortable on the inside.|||Why not take some boxing classes, it can only help, you%26#039;re a skiiled MT practitioner so you know that there is no harm in learning more.|||Sounds like a good idea. Boxing classes will probably help ALOT with your boxing. Since they practice--y%26#039;know-- boxing..in boxing classes. ;-)|||well if you know any other martial arts like say karate, then apply what you learn about how to punch in karate to muay thai... that might make up for boxing....|||No harm in cross training...GO FOR IT! Good Luck.|||try it, it won%26#039;t hurt.
What is the best muay thai training camp in Phuket?
Ther seem to be heaps advertised on the net. They all have similar prices and features. Does anybody have an experience (negative or positive) of training at any of them?|||look it up and decide from there|||uuuum..Phuket, I dont know.
My question is whats the difference between the muay thai low kick and the kyokushin low kick?
I know they both hit with the shins. I wanna no the other mechanics that are envolved.|||Essentially they are the same, you can thank Sosai Mas Oyama for that, as he implemented the low kick muay thai style to his kyokushin style.|||KYOKUSHIKAI The angle is up to the target
MUAY THAI The angle is down on the target (ideally) definitely more devasting capable of cracking the thigh bone.|||The ideal kyokushin kick would be loaded first, as in you raise the knee first and then kick, while in Muay Thai you swing the leg into the opponent
After the first half min of fighting the kyokushin kicks usually turn into Muay Thai kicks anyway
The principal behind it is if you load the kick first you can strike to any part of the body and the defender will have less time to figure out where you are hitting them since the begining of the kick is idealy always the same and once the knee is raise the extention of the rest of the leg happons too quick to catch
The Muay Thai kick is a pure power action, you pivot first and let the leg swing into the opponent, both kicks are good|||Relatively the same ,however, some of karate%26#039;s low kicks are more of stomp kicks to gain distance or break balance rather than muay thai%26#039;s brute force approach.|||Neither. Muay Thai is one of the four arts that made kyokushin, so Thai%26#039;s kick is Kyokushin%26#039;s.
The mechanics are simple: the hips are rotated into the kick in order to generate centrifugal force in the leg, and the ab muscles are used when rotating. So instead of a snappy kick, the combined motion of the leg and hips makes a kick with much more devoted to its momentum. Also, when kicking, the person will also raise up on the ball of their foot, mainly to allow for greater turning speed, and increased power. The Thai roundhouse, whether high or low, uses the shin to hit the target instead of the ball or the instep. This further adds to the power of the kick, as the shin is more dense and stronger than the foot.|||Frank is right... at least to my eyes also, they look the same.
MUAY THAI The angle is down on the target (ideally) definitely more devasting capable of cracking the thigh bone.|||The ideal kyokushin kick would be loaded first, as in you raise the knee first and then kick, while in Muay Thai you swing the leg into the opponent
After the first half min of fighting the kyokushin kicks usually turn into Muay Thai kicks anyway
The principal behind it is if you load the kick first you can strike to any part of the body and the defender will have less time to figure out where you are hitting them since the begining of the kick is idealy always the same and once the knee is raise the extention of the rest of the leg happons too quick to catch
The Muay Thai kick is a pure power action, you pivot first and let the leg swing into the opponent, both kicks are good|||Relatively the same ,however, some of karate%26#039;s low kicks are more of stomp kicks to gain distance or break balance rather than muay thai%26#039;s brute force approach.|||Neither. Muay Thai is one of the four arts that made kyokushin, so Thai%26#039;s kick is Kyokushin%26#039;s.
The mechanics are simple: the hips are rotated into the kick in order to generate centrifugal force in the leg, and the ab muscles are used when rotating. So instead of a snappy kick, the combined motion of the leg and hips makes a kick with much more devoted to its momentum. Also, when kicking, the person will also raise up on the ball of their foot, mainly to allow for greater turning speed, and increased power. The Thai roundhouse, whether high or low, uses the shin to hit the target instead of the ball or the instep. This further adds to the power of the kick, as the shin is more dense and stronger than the foot.|||Frank is right... at least to my eyes also, they look the same.
Monday, November 16, 2009
I want to start taking Muay Thai, what are some basic things I need to know?
And what are some major things I need to know before hand?|||1 Conditioning, rope jumping o running will do
2 Proper gear, muay thai shorts, a t-shirt, headgear, mouthpiece, 16 oz gloves and shin pads and cup.are the basic stuff you will need.
3 Shin conditioning, do NOT roll your shins with tubes or things like that, you%26#039;ll leave nasty bumps and kill the nerves, the way to condition is kickin a heavy bag over and over and over with you shins.
4 basic punchin techniques, jab, cross, uppercut, hook, you can also use elbows.
5 basic kicks, front kick, back kick, roundhouse, there are 3 roundhouse kicks. Low kick is aimed to the thigh, medium one to the waist or stomach and high to the head, you can also use knees, the muay thai roundhouse kick is arguably the most powerful kick out there.
6 Guard, ALWAYS keep your hands up to protect the face, and elbows to your body,
7 Stance, your feet at the same distance as your shoulders, weight evenly distributed 50-50 on each foot, keep on your toes. Your chin should always be down unless you are on a clinch.
8 Clinch, grab the back of the opponent%26#039;s head and pull down as you knee, the knee goes up as you shoot your hip, as you clinch your head is always looking up.
9 Important tips, as you kick alot of power comes from your hip, same as you punch. When you jab you do it on your toes, when you power punch your feet should be flat. When you do the roundhouse your shoulder should point the same direction as the leg kicking, stand on the ball of your foot and pivot, do alot of sit ups and squats to develop core strenght.
have fun! , muay thai is a tough martial art that you learn to appreciate more and morethe more you do, and is effective and no-nonsense, is one of the toughest out there. :-)|||that you will get more from 6 months of Muay Thai than karate, TKD, or any of the kung fu%26#039;s. simple, brutal, nothing fancy that wont work outside the training. I did years of Kempo, only to find that Mauy Thai had the answer... less flare, but more damage. why learn 200 moves when a few will take you through the rest of your life.
I dont dislike the others, but just think that the most efficient moves are simpler and brutal.
good choice grasshopper.|||Don%26#039;t expect any %26quot;spiritual%26quot;, %26quot;invisible attack%26quot;, %26quot;magic%26quot;, etc...
Expect a lot of hard work, especially first 3 to 6 months.
Stay very very humble.
2 Proper gear, muay thai shorts, a t-shirt, headgear, mouthpiece, 16 oz gloves and shin pads and cup.are the basic stuff you will need.
3 Shin conditioning, do NOT roll your shins with tubes or things like that, you%26#039;ll leave nasty bumps and kill the nerves, the way to condition is kickin a heavy bag over and over and over with you shins.
4 basic punchin techniques, jab, cross, uppercut, hook, you can also use elbows.
5 basic kicks, front kick, back kick, roundhouse, there are 3 roundhouse kicks. Low kick is aimed to the thigh, medium one to the waist or stomach and high to the head, you can also use knees, the muay thai roundhouse kick is arguably the most powerful kick out there.
6 Guard, ALWAYS keep your hands up to protect the face, and elbows to your body,
7 Stance, your feet at the same distance as your shoulders, weight evenly distributed 50-50 on each foot, keep on your toes. Your chin should always be down unless you are on a clinch.
8 Clinch, grab the back of the opponent%26#039;s head and pull down as you knee, the knee goes up as you shoot your hip, as you clinch your head is always looking up.
9 Important tips, as you kick alot of power comes from your hip, same as you punch. When you jab you do it on your toes, when you power punch your feet should be flat. When you do the roundhouse your shoulder should point the same direction as the leg kicking, stand on the ball of your foot and pivot, do alot of sit ups and squats to develop core strenght.
have fun! , muay thai is a tough martial art that you learn to appreciate more and morethe more you do, and is effective and no-nonsense, is one of the toughest out there. :-)|||that you will get more from 6 months of Muay Thai than karate, TKD, or any of the kung fu%26#039;s. simple, brutal, nothing fancy that wont work outside the training. I did years of Kempo, only to find that Mauy Thai had the answer... less flare, but more damage. why learn 200 moves when a few will take you through the rest of your life.
I dont dislike the others, but just think that the most efficient moves are simpler and brutal.
good choice grasshopper.|||Don%26#039;t expect any %26quot;spiritual%26quot;, %26quot;invisible attack%26quot;, %26quot;magic%26quot;, etc...
Expect a lot of hard work, especially first 3 to 6 months.
Stay very very humble.
Does anyone know of anywhere where I can learn Muay Thai around Crewe/ South Cheshire?
Does anyone know of anywhere where I can learn Muay Thai (Thai Boxing) in the Crewe area or its surroundings ( nantwich, sandbach, alsager etc...)|||You asked this before! Look, I%26#039;ve checked, there are none, but take a train ride to Stockport and you%26#039;ll be able to go and learn at Master Skens headquaters. Probably the best place to learn Muay Thai in the whole of UK.
http://www.mastersken.com/modx/|||dont you have a phone book?
just look up martial arts in the phone book.
or google it
http://www.mastersken.com/modx/|||dont you have a phone book?
just look up martial arts in the phone book.
or google it
If Nikolai Valuev trained in Grappling and Muay Thai would he be able to defeat Fedro Emelianenko ?
Nikolai Valuev is the World Boxing heavyweight champion, he is
7ft and holds a amateur and Professional record of 72 wins to 1 loss.
He also has won by 50 knockouts. He is very strong and has a large
body structurer for a tall person. He also has never been Knocked Out.|||i strongly believe that there is one guy who he really could beat fedor!his name is alexander karelin go check him out LIVING LEGEND;)
|||Anyone has the ability to baet anyone, regardless of who they are. Fedor is number one though becuase he trains hard and fights strategicly.
http://markstraining.com Fighting and Training Methods for Unarmed Martial Artists
7ft and holds a amateur and Professional record of 72 wins to 1 loss.
He also has won by 50 knockouts. He is very strong and has a large
body structurer for a tall person. He also has never been Knocked Out.|||i strongly believe that there is one guy who he really could beat fedor!his name is alexander karelin go check him out LIVING LEGEND;)
|||Anyone has the ability to baet anyone, regardless of who they are. Fedor is number one though becuase he trains hard and fights strategicly.
http://markstraining.com Fighting and Training Methods for Unarmed Martial Artists
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