Just looking for a solid Muay Thai training facility in the Northern VA area. Around Arlington and Alexandria to be exact.|||Well, I know that Amir Sadollah trains at a gym in VA, but it is not near you. Check
http://fightresource.com/
It will give you a list.
Best way to spot if it is a legit gym is:
1. Look at the coach list, are they well decorated?
2. Any pros train there? Maybe not but its a good sign.
3. check it out. most gyms allow you a trial period.
4. price? make sure they dont over charge.
5. demenor. Who trains there? Punk kids or people who you can be friends with.|||Theres one in Manassas, which isnt too far from arlington...Vanguard Gym. OR
Muay Thai Association U.S.A. Suriyasak Thai Boxing Gym; this is in Springfield...also not too far from Arlington or Alexandria.|||for me is Muay Thai gym...
Friday, November 18, 2011
What should take up, Jiu Jitsu or Muay Thai?
I was a Wrestler in High school for 3 years. I was pretty good, went to regionals all three years (though never made it to States)
Between Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai, Which do you think would benefit me the most in an MMA fight.
OR should I do both? I only have around 4-5 hours a week to train, Is that enough time to cross-train efficiently? Or would it be better to just concentrate one? If so.. Which?|||Ju Jitsu|||personally, I jus had to make the same decision, and i chose muay thai, i had a striking background, and thought it would get me into the swing of things easier, my time is limited also, so i am planning to switch from muay thia to bjj in 6 to 8 months... so with your wresteling background, maybe the oposite?|||Well you probably need to get some standup fighting in. Learning how to strike is something you cant go without if you are entering MMA. Since you have a background in some sort of ground game you should get what you can in the striking department. 4-5 hrs a week to train for a fight is also asking to get seriously hurt. I dont know if you have something scheduled but you need way more time than that if you want to train seriously for something.|||Since you already have grappling experience, jiu jitsu will be an easier transition.
I%26#039;d recommend you take both, but time is limited, I%26#039;d recommend you try both, and decide which one you%26#039;ll concentrate with.
good luck!|||hands down if you are just going to pick one style over the other, i would pick bjj.....although both are beneficial
Between Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai, Which do you think would benefit me the most in an MMA fight.
OR should I do both? I only have around 4-5 hours a week to train, Is that enough time to cross-train efficiently? Or would it be better to just concentrate one? If so.. Which?|||Ju Jitsu|||personally, I jus had to make the same decision, and i chose muay thai, i had a striking background, and thought it would get me into the swing of things easier, my time is limited also, so i am planning to switch from muay thia to bjj in 6 to 8 months... so with your wresteling background, maybe the oposite?|||Well you probably need to get some standup fighting in. Learning how to strike is something you cant go without if you are entering MMA. Since you have a background in some sort of ground game you should get what you can in the striking department. 4-5 hrs a week to train for a fight is also asking to get seriously hurt. I dont know if you have something scheduled but you need way more time than that if you want to train seriously for something.|||Since you already have grappling experience, jiu jitsu will be an easier transition.
I%26#039;d recommend you take both, but time is limited, I%26#039;d recommend you try both, and decide which one you%26#039;ll concentrate with.
good luck!|||hands down if you are just going to pick one style over the other, i would pick bjj.....although both are beneficial
Is there a grading system in Muay Thai?
Also, I%26#039;m considering going to the Tiger Muay Thai training camp in Phuket for a month next summer. Can anybody tell me there experience with that camp?|||Nope just like wrestling your either a wrestler or a good wrestler.|||Actually no there isn%26#039;t however they do use titles to define rolls of the instructors within their schools. Some schools have instituted using the head dress in different colors to differentiate the level of the fighters but that is not traditional in real Muay Thai training.|||Firstly there is no grading system in muay tai, as you just get better and better, and ive been to that camp, its really hard work but it pays of its really practical and fun aswell.|||Not in Phuket no, but there are lots of excellent gyms all over Thailand, I trained for a couple of weeks just round the corner from Khao San road in Bangkok. And no, there isn%26#039;t a traditional grading system.
Is Muay Thai the most brutal standup discipline & is there anyone who trains harder?
Muay Thai vs. other disciplines, who wins and why? I have seen quite a few Muay Thai fighters fighting other disciplines and it was no contest. The Thai fighters walked right through their opponents with devastating leg kicks while easily absorbing the assault of their opponents (A flying leg kick just isn%26#039;t the same as a baseball bat (shin) to the ribs). Fortunately for their opponents clinching and elbows were not allowed. As for training, is there anyone who trains/strenghtens the body and mind like Muay Thai fighters?|||What you are trying to imply is that Muay Thai is the best standup art.
Now: Muay Thai is one of the most aggressive arts period, and it has good training, but the direct crushing power is not always a person%26#039;s goal: That%26#039;s why there%26#039;s so many attributes to describe fighting. If your opponent has better crushing power than you, you have to change your staretgy: It doesn%26#039;t mean they are more skilled than you on all fighting attributes, and if you think carefully, you might find a way past that.
If you can break a baseball bat with your shin: Cool, break a leg while you%26#039;re at it if you want, but if someone can%26#039;t, you can%26#039;t insinuate that they are less of a fighter because of it. There%26#039;s thousands of strategies, and thousands of points on the body that can be attacked, and while hardness is usually a good method, a lot of people do well with circular striking, softer but still linear, and even the philosophy of striking hard on soft places, and soft on hard areas for example. Fighting in a ring is complex: Survival in the streets is even more complex.
I%26#039;ve learned just a small bit of Muay Thai, but I don%26#039;t go either way in saying that it is the best or it is the worst. I know it%26#039;s a grand standup style (It%26#039;s seriously really good... I wish I could train in it again to add to my standup experience) for self-defense and competition, but again: The training has a lot to do with how good it is.
As for other disciplines: Not necessarily arts, but there%26#039;s many styles that adopt training that is at the same level, or that may exceed it. Seidokan and Kyokushin Karate, for example, both have Muay Thai elements within them (And they are great styles as well). On the other hand, Capoeira training isn%26#039;t directly based around fighting (%26quot;Martial Acrobatic Dance%26quot;), but it is arguably the most physical martial art.
Traditonal Karate and Kung Fu classes sometimes adopt iron body (And/or Iron Palm Training), which on the basis of kicking may not be as good as desensitizing the nerves by kicking a tree (Or even a punching bag [I contend that the training of those arts that is intense usually deals with strong leg conditioning, but a more poweful hand conditioning: You don%26#039;t usually kick a makiwara board, but you CAN for example]), but with enough training, and the right person, they can stand up well.
It heavily deals with the practitioner, but Muay Thai starts strong, and finishes strong. You may not find in that in some schools of other styles (Which may or may not be a bad thing, when you consider how different we all are) due to many things. You don%26#039;t see children and the elderly taking Muay Thai too often, but do you see that in San Shou Kung Fu (By the way: Another style that has the potential)? What about Karate?
Muay Thai is a great standup art, and it has some of the best training, but no style is ultimate. And speaking of kicking:
Jeet Kune Do kicking is based around the combination of the %26quot;Baseball bat%26quot; wave style of Muay Thai, and the more Japanese/Chinese/Korean style kicking. The combination of both elements exist on a level, so that you have the precision to hit a small area like a hammer. A baseball bat to the ribs: Great attack. A precise strike to the ribs: Also a great attack. You have to think about those things, and the intent of a person, before you make judgment calls. I%26#039;m personally more of a subduction man myself, but x person might want a knockout (Or even death...), y might want to do enough to escape a situation, and z may want to throw and/or apply a submission/joint lock/joint manipulation. There%26#039;s way too many variables to simply say one style beats the rest. We%26#039;re just flooded with some schools that don%26#039;t have the best training these days: That%26#039;s not style dependent.
Don%26#039;t forget Muay Boran either! :p|||um, shaolin monks train harder. they train everyday by hitting the abdomens, the head, the shins, and also implies elbows, knees, and other things. though many people dont know of this.|||boxing is fair brutal i guess it depends on who is fighting some people are just nuts if u know what i mean|||Aside: Muay Thai is a very agressive and offensive fighting style. And it can be very effective. But it also takes a heavy toll on the people who practice it. Today%26#039;s great Muay Thai figher at 22 is tomorrows old man on crutches at 32.|||well it is pretty effective and a popular choice among many mma fighters but can i say its the flat out best? like you probably hard it depends on the person. san shou is becoming a more widely accepted form of kickboxing, i hear yaw yan is making its way into mma, kyokushin: style georges st pierre does check out the guy who created it mas oyama hes a bad man.
also one of the most feared strikers in mma crocop doesnt use muay thai and his kicks devastates almost anyone he connects with
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NoBiueeRpiI
p.s. i love thai boxing so dont think im being bias against thai boxing|||I%26#039;m sure there is a style that beats muay thai, but maybe not because it is better but rather because it plays on muay thai%26#039;s weaknesses. I doubt there is any one ultimate style, every one i know of has primary focuses, so as long as you are trained in a style that exploits the primary weakness of a style you can beat the mainstream of the figters in the style. As for what you are saying about muay thai stomping throgh the others, the only reason it would do that is because the other fighters were unskilled or only focused on their favorite moves... i.e. TKD focuses on kicks, muay thai kicks legs out, an unskilled aikido person might only rely on whatever type of grapples and throws they do rather than doing strikes and taking advantage of the situation when they can do whatever it is they do, I%26#039;ve watched a lot of muay thai wins over other styles and all the guys in the other styles were just trying to focus on their favorite moves. you said somethin a flying kick... if your kick is in the air, IMHO it is going to be a heck of a lot weaker than a grounded kick because you have nothing to get leverage and push off with. I%26#039;ve had people do flying kicks on me and they all just felt like pushes because basicly the people were just pushing off me, while if you are on the ground you have something keeping you in place so your hit goes forward instead of sending you backwards... and I%26#039;m not pretending to be an expert this is all just simple logic. back to the thing about no best styles... some of my friends can beat friends i cant beat in a fight, but i can beat the firends who beat the other friends... I.E. my techniques keep distance and use my opponents momentum against them, my friend nathan is a lot stronger than me and stands up straight for most of his moves until he gets yme to the ground, so he has a good strong base and i cant do didly squat... once on the ground his strength and groundfighting skills beat me. another friend, ryan, uses his weight against people. he weighs almost twice as much as me, so while he tries to use his weight to bring me down he does things like launching himself forward at me, so i pull and he falls flat on his face and i choke him out... but my friend nathan pushes so he just gets bowled over and ryan just uses his weight instead of strength (this is a 280 lb guy, nathan is 170, I%26#039;m 160, once he is on top of us we dont stand a chance) to roll nathan on his side then just puts all his weight down which puts a ton of pressure on nathans chest and nathan taps out. ryan cant get me on the ground so i ebat ryan, ryan beats nathan, nathan beats me. get it kind of?
EDIT: and each of us has our favorite moves.... mine is the rear naked chokehold, nathans is an arm bar, and ryans is that chest one i was tellin u about.
Now: Muay Thai is one of the most aggressive arts period, and it has good training, but the direct crushing power is not always a person%26#039;s goal: That%26#039;s why there%26#039;s so many attributes to describe fighting. If your opponent has better crushing power than you, you have to change your staretgy: It doesn%26#039;t mean they are more skilled than you on all fighting attributes, and if you think carefully, you might find a way past that.
If you can break a baseball bat with your shin: Cool, break a leg while you%26#039;re at it if you want, but if someone can%26#039;t, you can%26#039;t insinuate that they are less of a fighter because of it. There%26#039;s thousands of strategies, and thousands of points on the body that can be attacked, and while hardness is usually a good method, a lot of people do well with circular striking, softer but still linear, and even the philosophy of striking hard on soft places, and soft on hard areas for example. Fighting in a ring is complex: Survival in the streets is even more complex.
I%26#039;ve learned just a small bit of Muay Thai, but I don%26#039;t go either way in saying that it is the best or it is the worst. I know it%26#039;s a grand standup style (It%26#039;s seriously really good... I wish I could train in it again to add to my standup experience) for self-defense and competition, but again: The training has a lot to do with how good it is.
As for other disciplines: Not necessarily arts, but there%26#039;s many styles that adopt training that is at the same level, or that may exceed it. Seidokan and Kyokushin Karate, for example, both have Muay Thai elements within them (And they are great styles as well). On the other hand, Capoeira training isn%26#039;t directly based around fighting (%26quot;Martial Acrobatic Dance%26quot;), but it is arguably the most physical martial art.
Traditonal Karate and Kung Fu classes sometimes adopt iron body (And/or Iron Palm Training), which on the basis of kicking may not be as good as desensitizing the nerves by kicking a tree (Or even a punching bag [I contend that the training of those arts that is intense usually deals with strong leg conditioning, but a more poweful hand conditioning: You don%26#039;t usually kick a makiwara board, but you CAN for example]), but with enough training, and the right person, they can stand up well.
It heavily deals with the practitioner, but Muay Thai starts strong, and finishes strong. You may not find in that in some schools of other styles (Which may or may not be a bad thing, when you consider how different we all are) due to many things. You don%26#039;t see children and the elderly taking Muay Thai too often, but do you see that in San Shou Kung Fu (By the way: Another style that has the potential)? What about Karate?
Muay Thai is a great standup art, and it has some of the best training, but no style is ultimate. And speaking of kicking:
Jeet Kune Do kicking is based around the combination of the %26quot;Baseball bat%26quot; wave style of Muay Thai, and the more Japanese/Chinese/Korean style kicking. The combination of both elements exist on a level, so that you have the precision to hit a small area like a hammer. A baseball bat to the ribs: Great attack. A precise strike to the ribs: Also a great attack. You have to think about those things, and the intent of a person, before you make judgment calls. I%26#039;m personally more of a subduction man myself, but x person might want a knockout (Or even death...), y might want to do enough to escape a situation, and z may want to throw and/or apply a submission/joint lock/joint manipulation. There%26#039;s way too many variables to simply say one style beats the rest. We%26#039;re just flooded with some schools that don%26#039;t have the best training these days: That%26#039;s not style dependent.
Don%26#039;t forget Muay Boran either! :p|||um, shaolin monks train harder. they train everyday by hitting the abdomens, the head, the shins, and also implies elbows, knees, and other things. though many people dont know of this.|||boxing is fair brutal i guess it depends on who is fighting some people are just nuts if u know what i mean|||Aside: Muay Thai is a very agressive and offensive fighting style. And it can be very effective. But it also takes a heavy toll on the people who practice it. Today%26#039;s great Muay Thai figher at 22 is tomorrows old man on crutches at 32.|||well it is pretty effective and a popular choice among many mma fighters but can i say its the flat out best? like you probably hard it depends on the person. san shou is becoming a more widely accepted form of kickboxing, i hear yaw yan is making its way into mma, kyokushin: style georges st pierre does check out the guy who created it mas oyama hes a bad man.
also one of the most feared strikers in mma crocop doesnt use muay thai and his kicks devastates almost anyone he connects with
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NoBiueeRpiI
p.s. i love thai boxing so dont think im being bias against thai boxing|||I%26#039;m sure there is a style that beats muay thai, but maybe not because it is better but rather because it plays on muay thai%26#039;s weaknesses. I doubt there is any one ultimate style, every one i know of has primary focuses, so as long as you are trained in a style that exploits the primary weakness of a style you can beat the mainstream of the figters in the style. As for what you are saying about muay thai stomping throgh the others, the only reason it would do that is because the other fighters were unskilled or only focused on their favorite moves... i.e. TKD focuses on kicks, muay thai kicks legs out, an unskilled aikido person might only rely on whatever type of grapples and throws they do rather than doing strikes and taking advantage of the situation when they can do whatever it is they do, I%26#039;ve watched a lot of muay thai wins over other styles and all the guys in the other styles were just trying to focus on their favorite moves. you said somethin a flying kick... if your kick is in the air, IMHO it is going to be a heck of a lot weaker than a grounded kick because you have nothing to get leverage and push off with. I%26#039;ve had people do flying kicks on me and they all just felt like pushes because basicly the people were just pushing off me, while if you are on the ground you have something keeping you in place so your hit goes forward instead of sending you backwards... and I%26#039;m not pretending to be an expert this is all just simple logic. back to the thing about no best styles... some of my friends can beat friends i cant beat in a fight, but i can beat the firends who beat the other friends... I.E. my techniques keep distance and use my opponents momentum against them, my friend nathan is a lot stronger than me and stands up straight for most of his moves until he gets yme to the ground, so he has a good strong base and i cant do didly squat... once on the ground his strength and groundfighting skills beat me. another friend, ryan, uses his weight against people. he weighs almost twice as much as me, so while he tries to use his weight to bring me down he does things like launching himself forward at me, so i pull and he falls flat on his face and i choke him out... but my friend nathan pushes so he just gets bowled over and ryan just uses his weight instead of strength (this is a 280 lb guy, nathan is 170, I%26#039;m 160, once he is on top of us we dont stand a chance) to roll nathan on his side then just puts all his weight down which puts a ton of pressure on nathans chest and nathan taps out. ryan cant get me on the ground so i ebat ryan, ryan beats nathan, nathan beats me. get it kind of?
EDIT: and each of us has our favorite moves.... mine is the rear naked chokehold, nathans is an arm bar, and ryans is that chest one i was tellin u about.
Know of any good muay thai school in Puerto Rico?
Im not talking about western kickboxing, i mean thailand muay thai.|||sorry maybe underground ur better off looking for a tae kwon do place there aint realy a muay thai place yet|||Go drink some rum and do some freestyle reggeton...if you can%26#039;t sing, that%26#039;s ok cause you can%26#039;t understand a thing they say anyway, and it%26#039;s all the same...don%26#039;t forget to add stupid sirens to the background...why does that %26quot;music%26quot; always have sirens? you%26#039;re better off investing in a trip to thailand than finding a good school in puerto rico!
Can i major in Pharmacy while practicing Muay Thai?
I want a college degree to support myself as well as i want a rock hard body just like that of Muay Thai Fighters. I want to train on Muay Thai extensively. can i do that?|||Muay Thai practicioners are generally accountants, not pharmacists, so no.|||no reason you cant do both as long as you make time.|||No. Study Mixed Martial Arts %26amp; Crafts instead.|||no those two styles dont mix well.
What martial arts do you think could match up with muay thai? ?
Full Contact, one on one, opponents of equal skill. What styles could face off against muay thai? Also consider muay thai%26#039;s nasty knee and elbow strikes. |||ANY. Basically the long answer is the standard %26quot;its the person, not the style%26quot; thing. The biggest factor is the attitude towards teaching at each school. If the focus is for tourny fighting, tourny fighters is what you get. If you teach your students that all fights go to the ground, then that is what they will think. And, to get back on point, if you know that most styles have nasty knees and elbows, the knee and elbows from muay thai are just like other styles. If you end up in a school that teaches solid techniques and application, you should be able to hold your own against anyone of the same skill.
Muay Thai doesn%26#039;t hold the patent on dishing out hurt.
|||Rather than give you a totally unhelpful answer such as %26quot;it%26#039;s the person, not the style%26quot; type, you can look at what has made Muay Thai so successful:
Basically, the reason why the style works so well is the emphasis that is placed on sparring, the competition rules, and the training methods (bag and pad work, the camps system, body conditioning... etc).
There are a couple of well-known styles that compare well such as Kyokushin karate and sanda/san shou, and some more obscure styles such as savate and bokator.
In my opinion, western boxing can also compare fairly well, though a western boxer would need to add a couple of kicks to his/her arsenal and -more importantly- would have to learn to defend against kicks in order to prepare for a match up against a thai boxer.
|||As mentioned Kyokoshin karate and Chinese Sanshou are both very similar. In fact SanShou fighters regularly beat Muay Thai fighters.
I also do not know where the notion that muay thai is the only style that has knees and elbows. Okinawan karate such as Shoryn-Ryu, Goju-Ryu, and Isshin-Ryu all incorporate knees, elbows, and low kicks, just like Muay Thai. Okinawan karate also teaches to fight in a clinch. Muay Thai is just more widely recognized because of the fact is is popular in the UFC and MMA competition, and this is mainly due to the fact that it is much faster to get to a higher level then most other styles.|||Jeet Kun Do might match up well in a street fight. However, smashing someone in the trachea with nunchucks might be a little extreme for an MMA bout. In a MMA or NHB fight, Judo or Sambo with a little boxing mixed in would probably be my choice. Stand up styles can%26#039;t really handle the abuse to the legs and wrestlers are too likely to eat a straight punch or a knee coming in, so you%26#039;d really need something in the middle range.|||like mentioned earlier any art if the person is well trained and taught realistic fighting can go up against Muay Thai. Also consider knees and elbows are NOT exclusive to Muay Thai.
Anyways Kyokushin Karate and San Shou are often set up against Muay Thai to see which style is a %26quot;better%26quot; striking art.|||It depends on how good the fighter is? It takes more then elbows and knees to win a fight.
I once saw this fat kid at a train station fend against 3 attackers and won. The fat kid just struck out when they started mouthing of at him. The fat kid took them by shock and negated their aggresion. The fat kid walked away and the 3 wimps stood their looking like shocked rape victims. |||any of tehm use differnt arts, and creat your own fighting style, that is what mma is all about creativity
Muay Thai doesn%26#039;t hold the patent on dishing out hurt.
|||Rather than give you a totally unhelpful answer such as %26quot;it%26#039;s the person, not the style%26quot; type, you can look at what has made Muay Thai so successful:
Basically, the reason why the style works so well is the emphasis that is placed on sparring, the competition rules, and the training methods (bag and pad work, the camps system, body conditioning... etc).
There are a couple of well-known styles that compare well such as Kyokushin karate and sanda/san shou, and some more obscure styles such as savate and bokator.
In my opinion, western boxing can also compare fairly well, though a western boxer would need to add a couple of kicks to his/her arsenal and -more importantly- would have to learn to defend against kicks in order to prepare for a match up against a thai boxer.
|||As mentioned Kyokoshin karate and Chinese Sanshou are both very similar. In fact SanShou fighters regularly beat Muay Thai fighters.
I also do not know where the notion that muay thai is the only style that has knees and elbows. Okinawan karate such as Shoryn-Ryu, Goju-Ryu, and Isshin-Ryu all incorporate knees, elbows, and low kicks, just like Muay Thai. Okinawan karate also teaches to fight in a clinch. Muay Thai is just more widely recognized because of the fact is is popular in the UFC and MMA competition, and this is mainly due to the fact that it is much faster to get to a higher level then most other styles.|||Jeet Kun Do might match up well in a street fight. However, smashing someone in the trachea with nunchucks might be a little extreme for an MMA bout. In a MMA or NHB fight, Judo or Sambo with a little boxing mixed in would probably be my choice. Stand up styles can%26#039;t really handle the abuse to the legs and wrestlers are too likely to eat a straight punch or a knee coming in, so you%26#039;d really need something in the middle range.|||like mentioned earlier any art if the person is well trained and taught realistic fighting can go up against Muay Thai. Also consider knees and elbows are NOT exclusive to Muay Thai.
Anyways Kyokushin Karate and San Shou are often set up against Muay Thai to see which style is a %26quot;better%26quot; striking art.|||It depends on how good the fighter is? It takes more then elbows and knees to win a fight.
I once saw this fat kid at a train station fend against 3 attackers and won. The fat kid just struck out when they started mouthing of at him. The fat kid took them by shock and negated their aggresion. The fat kid walked away and the 3 wimps stood their looking like shocked rape victims. |||any of tehm use differnt arts, and creat your own fighting style, that is what mma is all about creativity
Is there any reason to learn Karate instead of Muay Thai?
Besides being able to say you are a %26quot;black belt?%26quot; I know Karate teaches discipline, but I%26#039;m asking about learning Karate instead of Muay Thai in order to become a better fighter, not to become a more disciplined person. |||there is no reason whatsoever..... karate will not make you a better fighter..... Muay-Thai is a aggressive fight sport.... a average muay thai circuit fighter will put the pain down on any karate black belt and leave him with more than a couple gash%26#039;s on his face.... if you want to become a better fighter learn Boxing, Kickboxing-MuayThai, wrestling, sambo, jiu-jitsu etc................... not freakin karate or taekwando or any of that other trash|||good question well i would say either is just as good no matter what art you do if you have a good instructor and train reguarly you should get good results,Muay thai is a good art so is karate i have seen good fighters from both arts, find out what works best for yourself go to classes of both styles and see which you like the best and then stick with your choice, get a good grounding in one style then you can look at other styles after, if you chose to,or just stick and became very good at one|||If you want to learn how to take a beating right away then study Muay Thai. If you want to learn some fundamentals about fighting and you have patience to learn a great deal prior to stepping in a ring to fight an opponent, then take karate. Full contact karate, like K-1 is no push over style against Muay Thai. If Muay Thai was the %26quot;ultimate striking style%26quot; then 110 lb Thai boxers would be able to beat 220 lb K-1 fighters, and that just doesn%26#039;t happen. |||Availability.
People that try to claim that one is better than the other, really have no clue what they are talking about. Your main concern here is the instructor(s). You will get much more from a great karate instructor, than you will from some average Muay Thai instructor. The same is true for the reverse. Find out what schools are reasonably available to you. Go to those schools and see the caliber of students and instructor(s) they offer.|||Muay Thai is a sport primarily, not a martial art. It is far from complete in a streetfighting perspective.
Karate is a self defense system. As such, it will give you a more well rounded street defense system.
So the answer is, if you%26#039;re primary interest is combat sport, take Muay Thai, otherwise take Karate.|||No!
As if all you desire is to become a great fighter then either will do ,a Karateka can kick as fast and hard as a muay Thai person if he so desires it,however I%26#039;m not so sure about contact using the shin,but ultimately its down to the individual using as example, Mas Oyama, Dominic Valera would both be more than a force for any muay thai guys whether they admit it or not.
Best wishes :)***|||yes because you like it better.
it is just as good as muay thai.
what is muay thai (at least as it%26#039;s taught in the west)...a few kicks, a few knees, a few elbows, neck wrestling and some punches...taught in a very live manner.
karate can be so much more than that....IF you can find a good legit instructor and train in a live manner.
lyoto machida, andy hug for a few examples.|||if you like to wear pyjamas learn karate if you want to fight learn muay thai, seriously no martial art is better than the other depends on your instructor and ultimately you. There is no rock, scissor, paper in martial arts, it is an art. try both see what you prefer.|||Muay Thai is pure fighting. If you want to be a fighter do Muay Thai, if you want to be a martial artist take Karate.|||No Muay Thai is much better.
People that try to claim that one is better than the other, really have no clue what they are talking about. Your main concern here is the instructor(s). You will get much more from a great karate instructor, than you will from some average Muay Thai instructor. The same is true for the reverse. Find out what schools are reasonably available to you. Go to those schools and see the caliber of students and instructor(s) they offer.|||Muay Thai is a sport primarily, not a martial art. It is far from complete in a streetfighting perspective.
Karate is a self defense system. As such, it will give you a more well rounded street defense system.
So the answer is, if you%26#039;re primary interest is combat sport, take Muay Thai, otherwise take Karate.|||No!
As if all you desire is to become a great fighter then either will do ,a Karateka can kick as fast and hard as a muay Thai person if he so desires it,however I%26#039;m not so sure about contact using the shin,but ultimately its down to the individual using as example, Mas Oyama, Dominic Valera would both be more than a force for any muay thai guys whether they admit it or not.
Best wishes :)***|||yes because you like it better.
it is just as good as muay thai.
what is muay thai (at least as it%26#039;s taught in the west)...a few kicks, a few knees, a few elbows, neck wrestling and some punches...taught in a very live manner.
karate can be so much more than that....IF you can find a good legit instructor and train in a live manner.
lyoto machida, andy hug for a few examples.|||if you like to wear pyjamas learn karate if you want to fight learn muay thai, seriously no martial art is better than the other depends on your instructor and ultimately you. There is no rock, scissor, paper in martial arts, it is an art. try both see what you prefer.|||Muay Thai is pure fighting. If you want to be a fighter do Muay Thai, if you want to be a martial artist take Karate.|||No Muay Thai is much better.
Difference between a Muay Thai round house and a TKD round house?
This question has been bugging me for a while, I%26#039;ve been told that Muay Thai usually uses the shin while TKD uses the foot, but i%26#039;m not exactly sure.|||The three key differences are the point of impact, chambering, and source of power.
As has been mentioned, the point of impact for MT is the shin, while the point of impact for TKD is the instep.
Chambering the leg exists in TKD, but MT practitioners kick with a relatively straight leg.
The power behind the kick in MT comes from the hips while the power behind the TKD kicks comes from unchambering the leg.
Of course, I am going with what is standard. It isn%26#039;t to say that all TKD practitioners neglect to turn their hip into the kicks. However, due to their modern format for competition, turning the hips into kicks could be seen as dangerous overcommitment. I, personally, came from a TKD school that emphasized putting your hip into your punches and kicks.|||You got it right. With TKD the foot is the striking surface. M.T. wants you to use the shin. If you throw the TKD kick right, and your foot is conditioned to withstand it, you won%26#039;t get hurt. The same with M.T. The shin gets conditioned to the point where you don%26#039;t feel the pain. Both can work well in self defense. For those who think the TKD variant is no good, remember, when you get attacked in the street, you are usually wearing shoes or boots. When you get kicked in the face or ribs by someone wearing shoes, it hurts that much more.|||Simply put,
Muy Thai- Is like swinging a bat or club at your opponent. Swinging wide like a bat, hitting stiff like a bat, and following through like a bat. The shin is has more surface area to cause damage.
TKD- the roundhouse is more like cracking a whip. Whip it out, snap, kick, and bring it back for another. Not as much devastation but it is fast and stings. The foot/end of whip is easier to apply with out getting caught up and keeping a greater distance.|||skill of the practitioner is the big issue, not the surface you kick with, in a fight TKD or MT the kick is thrown but the opponent moves in or out and contact is made with the shin or foot or not. I used my shin and my foot with out any harm to me as long as my foot or shin is conditioned to kicking and striking..bare knuckle breaks of fists if the nose is missed and fore head hit, that is the nature of scuffles.....Sh----T happens|||well with TKQ they love to concentrate with speed and finesse..accuracy. while muay thai is a much more involved conatact sport...the shin can keep you from injuring your feet in a real fight..uhm a good example is i see alot in inexpereinced guys come in to the gym i go to and try to act bad *** and kick kicking bag with the instep of their foot..and hurt it real bad...you shin is much more solid...less pain there..plus you get the KO quicker with it.|||There isn%26#039;t really much difference in the kicks, but in muay thai, u tend to make more contact on the shin side, were as in tkd, u hit with the top of ur foot.|||you heard right Muay Thai uses the shin and TKD uses the foot.Muay Thai is more lethal.|||ive also heard tkd gyms tell you to stop and retract it while muai thai coaches teach you to follow through.|||the4 other huge difference is Thai kicks are not sneaky. they hit harder but the tkd one will slip in faster
As has been mentioned, the point of impact for MT is the shin, while the point of impact for TKD is the instep.
Chambering the leg exists in TKD, but MT practitioners kick with a relatively straight leg.
The power behind the kick in MT comes from the hips while the power behind the TKD kicks comes from unchambering the leg.
Of course, I am going with what is standard. It isn%26#039;t to say that all TKD practitioners neglect to turn their hip into the kicks. However, due to their modern format for competition, turning the hips into kicks could be seen as dangerous overcommitment. I, personally, came from a TKD school that emphasized putting your hip into your punches and kicks.|||You got it right. With TKD the foot is the striking surface. M.T. wants you to use the shin. If you throw the TKD kick right, and your foot is conditioned to withstand it, you won%26#039;t get hurt. The same with M.T. The shin gets conditioned to the point where you don%26#039;t feel the pain. Both can work well in self defense. For those who think the TKD variant is no good, remember, when you get attacked in the street, you are usually wearing shoes or boots. When you get kicked in the face or ribs by someone wearing shoes, it hurts that much more.|||Simply put,
Muy Thai- Is like swinging a bat or club at your opponent. Swinging wide like a bat, hitting stiff like a bat, and following through like a bat. The shin is has more surface area to cause damage.
TKD- the roundhouse is more like cracking a whip. Whip it out, snap, kick, and bring it back for another. Not as much devastation but it is fast and stings. The foot/end of whip is easier to apply with out getting caught up and keeping a greater distance.|||skill of the practitioner is the big issue, not the surface you kick with, in a fight TKD or MT the kick is thrown but the opponent moves in or out and contact is made with the shin or foot or not. I used my shin and my foot with out any harm to me as long as my foot or shin is conditioned to kicking and striking..bare knuckle breaks of fists if the nose is missed and fore head hit, that is the nature of scuffles.....Sh----T happens|||well with TKQ they love to concentrate with speed and finesse..accuracy. while muay thai is a much more involved conatact sport...the shin can keep you from injuring your feet in a real fight..uhm a good example is i see alot in inexpereinced guys come in to the gym i go to and try to act bad *** and kick kicking bag with the instep of their foot..and hurt it real bad...you shin is much more solid...less pain there..plus you get the KO quicker with it.|||There isn%26#039;t really much difference in the kicks, but in muay thai, u tend to make more contact on the shin side, were as in tkd, u hit with the top of ur foot.|||you heard right Muay Thai uses the shin and TKD uses the foot.Muay Thai is more lethal.|||ive also heard tkd gyms tell you to stop and retract it while muai thai coaches teach you to follow through.|||the4 other huge difference is Thai kicks are not sneaky. they hit harder but the tkd one will slip in faster
What should I take up, Jiu Jitsu or Muay Thai?
I was a Wrestler in High school for 3 years. I was pretty good, went to regionals all three years (though never made it to States)
Between Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai, Which do you think would benefit me the most in an MMA fight.
OR should I do both? I only have around 4-5 hours a week to train, Is that enough time to cross-train efficiently? Or would it be better to just concentrate one? If so.. Which?|||because u have wrestling experience, take both. your experience will benefit u a lot. muay tai is very effective so take that too.
4-5 hours of training is not enough because u should be training 2-3 hours daily and take a day off if u have any sores or pains.
definately take muay thai 1st and whn ur experienced take brazillian jiu jitsu because its more about technique then form.
The reason i say take MT first is because u have wrestling experience but take BJJ as soon as possible.|||take both, but be careful, both can really hurt you bad if you are getting the real deal and not some fake junk|||Try muay thai, when you can also practice your wrestling.|||This is a tough question! If you can do both, it would be great.
Jiu-Jitsu is a must know. You needed to know the techniques, and how to escape. On the other hand, you needed Muay Thai also. You need striking skill. When you are fighting, you don%26#039;t always go to the ground right away. Well, it depend on who you are fight. Even a Jiu-Jitsu fighters sometime they are stand too when fighting.
My suggestion for you is to do 6 months of Jiu-Jitsu, and 6 months of Muay Thai. That way, you have a little of both, or
find yourself a school that teach you both of Muay Thai, and Jiut-Jitsu at the same time. I hoped this help you. Good luck to you, and see you inside the Octagon.|||i would say muay thai since you already have some ground game after all pulling arm bar isnt that hard if your already sitting on someones chest, you would prolly benefit more from the muay thai, more than anything you need to find more time to train it though|||No one can truly answer that but you.
No doubt you will get various answers based upon personal preferences. However, this is a personal choice. What %26quot;Fits%26quot; for you may not %26quot;Fit%26quot; for others.
I visited many Dojos prior to finding a %26quot;Home.%26quot;
I would recommend exploring both. One will be a definite fit once you commence training.....and you%26#039;ll know it when it happens.
Train hard.
Good luck.|||if you are gonna do mma you should find 4-5 hours a DAY to train and if you can do both, but if you can only do one do muay thai i%26#039;d say just because you can already wrestle|||Whatever you do, do not ever waste your time with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ or Basically Just Judo).
Go find a good Judo dojo and learn Kodokan Judo.
http://www.judoinfo.com|||yes do both! you are obviously weaker in striking so you should concentrated on the Muay Thai first.
Between Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai, Which do you think would benefit me the most in an MMA fight.
OR should I do both? I only have around 4-5 hours a week to train, Is that enough time to cross-train efficiently? Or would it be better to just concentrate one? If so.. Which?|||because u have wrestling experience, take both. your experience will benefit u a lot. muay tai is very effective so take that too.
4-5 hours of training is not enough because u should be training 2-3 hours daily and take a day off if u have any sores or pains.
definately take muay thai 1st and whn ur experienced take brazillian jiu jitsu because its more about technique then form.
The reason i say take MT first is because u have wrestling experience but take BJJ as soon as possible.|||take both, but be careful, both can really hurt you bad if you are getting the real deal and not some fake junk|||Try muay thai, when you can also practice your wrestling.|||This is a tough question! If you can do both, it would be great.
Jiu-Jitsu is a must know. You needed to know the techniques, and how to escape. On the other hand, you needed Muay Thai also. You need striking skill. When you are fighting, you don%26#039;t always go to the ground right away. Well, it depend on who you are fight. Even a Jiu-Jitsu fighters sometime they are stand too when fighting.
My suggestion for you is to do 6 months of Jiu-Jitsu, and 6 months of Muay Thai. That way, you have a little of both, or
find yourself a school that teach you both of Muay Thai, and Jiut-Jitsu at the same time. I hoped this help you. Good luck to you, and see you inside the Octagon.|||i would say muay thai since you already have some ground game after all pulling arm bar isnt that hard if your already sitting on someones chest, you would prolly benefit more from the muay thai, more than anything you need to find more time to train it though|||No one can truly answer that but you.
No doubt you will get various answers based upon personal preferences. However, this is a personal choice. What %26quot;Fits%26quot; for you may not %26quot;Fit%26quot; for others.
I visited many Dojos prior to finding a %26quot;Home.%26quot;
I would recommend exploring both. One will be a definite fit once you commence training.....and you%26#039;ll know it when it happens.
Train hard.
Good luck.|||if you are gonna do mma you should find 4-5 hours a DAY to train and if you can do both, but if you can only do one do muay thai i%26#039;d say just because you can already wrestle|||Whatever you do, do not ever waste your time with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ or Basically Just Judo).
Go find a good Judo dojo and learn Kodokan Judo.
http://www.judoinfo.com|||yes do both! you are obviously weaker in striking so you should concentrated on the Muay Thai first.
What's the injury and death rate of Muay Thai?
What%26#039;s the injury and death rate of Muay Thai? Is it safer than western boxing?
I would be thankful if you give a source (webpage) of your answer, if you can.|||Injury and death rate are fairly low in muay thai compared to other combat sports, and especially compared to Western boxing.
Most of the serious injuries in Western boxing come from repetitive punches to the head in training, sparring and in competitions. The long term effects on a boxer can be quite evident (slurred speech... etc).
This is something that is avoided in Muay Thai due to the variety of techniques (not all of which are targetted at the head. A knee to the stomach will end up a fight very quickly...
Injuries are quite frequent in Muay Thai bouts, though they are rarely very serious or fatal.
A lot of fights will be ended by cuts sustained through elbow strikes. Vertical cuts do not heal very easily, and it is hard to stem the flow of blood, which is why muay thai fighters like vertical elbow techniques.
Other injuries include broken ribs, occasionally broken hands, legs, and noses, popped shoulders... etc. Most fights end up with nothing more than marked bruising.
The following article shows how muay thai has evolved from a deadly art with an extremely high injury rate, to a relatively safe combat sport: http://muaythai.me/knotty_muay_thai.php|||From what I%26#039;ve seen, the injury and death rate would depend on whether or not it was a fight, sparring or training. In the Fight Science documentary on TV they showed many types of blows as done on a sensor equipped dummy, and the muay tai style knee delivered forces about the same as a thirty mile per hour car crash would. you might check out http://www.horizonmuaythai.com/history.h... and http://www.thaiboxing.com/history.php for some great info.|||Injurry rate-- high.
Safer than boxing-- they are equally dangerous, they are full contact, lots of sparring.|||safer
I would be thankful if you give a source (webpage) of your answer, if you can.|||Injury and death rate are fairly low in muay thai compared to other combat sports, and especially compared to Western boxing.
Most of the serious injuries in Western boxing come from repetitive punches to the head in training, sparring and in competitions. The long term effects on a boxer can be quite evident (slurred speech... etc).
This is something that is avoided in Muay Thai due to the variety of techniques (not all of which are targetted at the head. A knee to the stomach will end up a fight very quickly...
Injuries are quite frequent in Muay Thai bouts, though they are rarely very serious or fatal.
A lot of fights will be ended by cuts sustained through elbow strikes. Vertical cuts do not heal very easily, and it is hard to stem the flow of blood, which is why muay thai fighters like vertical elbow techniques.
Other injuries include broken ribs, occasionally broken hands, legs, and noses, popped shoulders... etc. Most fights end up with nothing more than marked bruising.
The following article shows how muay thai has evolved from a deadly art with an extremely high injury rate, to a relatively safe combat sport: http://muaythai.me/knotty_muay_thai.php|||From what I%26#039;ve seen, the injury and death rate would depend on whether or not it was a fight, sparring or training. In the Fight Science documentary on TV they showed many types of blows as done on a sensor equipped dummy, and the muay tai style knee delivered forces about the same as a thirty mile per hour car crash would. you might check out http://www.horizonmuaythai.com/history.h... and http://www.thaiboxing.com/history.php for some great info.|||Injurry rate-- high.
Safer than boxing-- they are equally dangerous, they are full contact, lots of sparring.|||safer
Would training Muay Thai help me gain muscle mass?
I%26#039;ve been going to the gym for some time now and getting excellent results. I%26#039;ve been exercising and eating according to the program I have and everything went fine, except I am not getting a lot better at fights, so I%26#039;m switching to Muay Thai.
Would training Muay Thai help me gain muscle mass? Of course, I%26#039;d be eating properly as I have when I was weight lifting.
My goal for now is to get better at fights, and I would like to retain at least this much muscle as much as I accumulated.|||Will it depends on what weight class your in, but usually Muay Thai focuses on cardio. They do push ups and sit-ups a lot. They also use weight training too, but don%26#039;t use a lot of weight because it causes you to gain more muscle mass which can restrict your movement.|||nope. you will develop a much leaner looking body but not increase the size unless you are also lifting weights. in muay thai, muscle mass doesn%26#039;t mean ****. a lot of those guys can kick trees down, do you think big bulky muscles will save you?|||huh? you thought just doing weights would make you a better fighter? and now you will stop doing weights to train mauy thai? well if you really want to get bigger and be a good fighter you should probs do both.|||Yes but you won%26#039;t be using as much weights. Instead you will rely more on working on body weight which means exersizes like squats and pushups. There%26#039;s a lot of cardio as well. You might use some resistance as well.|||It may help you gain some muscle mass, it will definately make your muscle density increase.|||only on your legs because you need to be able to kick hard
Would training Muay Thai help me gain muscle mass? Of course, I%26#039;d be eating properly as I have when I was weight lifting.
My goal for now is to get better at fights, and I would like to retain at least this much muscle as much as I accumulated.|||Will it depends on what weight class your in, but usually Muay Thai focuses on cardio. They do push ups and sit-ups a lot. They also use weight training too, but don%26#039;t use a lot of weight because it causes you to gain more muscle mass which can restrict your movement.|||nope. you will develop a much leaner looking body but not increase the size unless you are also lifting weights. in muay thai, muscle mass doesn%26#039;t mean ****. a lot of those guys can kick trees down, do you think big bulky muscles will save you?|||huh? you thought just doing weights would make you a better fighter? and now you will stop doing weights to train mauy thai? well if you really want to get bigger and be a good fighter you should probs do both.|||Yes but you won%26#039;t be using as much weights. Instead you will rely more on working on body weight which means exersizes like squats and pushups. There%26#039;s a lot of cardio as well. You might use some resistance as well.|||It may help you gain some muscle mass, it will definately make your muscle density increase.|||only on your legs because you need to be able to kick hard
Does anyone know the difference between Muay Thai and Muay Boran?
I%26#039;m currently learing Muay Thai and happy with it and i was just wondering what are the differences between Muay Boran and Muay Thai and can you explain them please? Thanks alot|||Muay Boran was the predecessor to Muay Thai. More the real combat version than the competition form.|||Muay Boran is actually a regional form of traditional Muay Thai. Old style techniques may also be called Muay Wat (Temple Boxing), MeMaiMuayThai (Master Techniques of Muay Thai), or a number of other names.
Stances, techniques, etc. can all vary greatly from style to style and similar to Chinese MA there can be an emphasis on certian movements, frames, etc. that define each style.
This is true even today to a lesser extent--there is %26quot;Bangkok%26quot; muay Thai, Northern and Southern and other regional styles of MT, as well as individual camp styles. And of course individual fighters and trainers always have their own favorite techniques and styles.
I know a bit of the old-style MT and it is great. I think the the techinques of today%26#039;s MT are actually better in some ways, but it is important to me to preserve the old styles as well.|||Boran is more of a killing art than a ring sport, the moves are designed to be more devastating.|||Muay Boran is basically a old style of Muay Thai. It is more oriented toward combat but not as effective in ring. If it was that good then why doesn%26#039;t you see many Thai use Muay Boran any more?
Stances, techniques, etc. can all vary greatly from style to style and similar to Chinese MA there can be an emphasis on certian movements, frames, etc. that define each style.
This is true even today to a lesser extent--there is %26quot;Bangkok%26quot; muay Thai, Northern and Southern and other regional styles of MT, as well as individual camp styles. And of course individual fighters and trainers always have their own favorite techniques and styles.
I know a bit of the old-style MT and it is great. I think the the techinques of today%26#039;s MT are actually better in some ways, but it is important to me to preserve the old styles as well.|||Boran is more of a killing art than a ring sport, the moves are designed to be more devastating.|||Muay Boran is basically a old style of Muay Thai. It is more oriented toward combat but not as effective in ring. If it was that good then why doesn%26#039;t you see many Thai use Muay Boran any more?
Is there any muay thai schools in the philippines?
Is there any muay thai schools in the phillippines, somewhere in manila?|||Hope this site helps:|||I don%26#039;t know of any Muay Thai gyms in Manila, but there are a couple of MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) gyms which teach Muay Thai.|||I would think so since that is one of the countries it originated in.
Anybody know any good muay thai drills that i can do on my own?
im looking for some muay thai drills that i can do on my own. i have my own heavy bag, but for the most part im just looking for some new drills that i can utilize on my own to improve my skill, whether it be striking power, speed, or to help make combos better..... thanks ahead of time!|||1, 2, 10.
3, 2, 3.
clinch and knee
pretty much just do your shadow boxing drills on the bag.
I highly recommend bag sprints for cardio|||burpies and pull ups jack knife crunches all day. Static holds for core strength , it does wonders for being able to absorb body punches. Other answers before me where great as well. Also don%26#039;t froget to jump rope 15 minutes before and stretch after.|||skip knees like 100 of them with ankle weights
3, 2, 3.
clinch and knee
pretty much just do your shadow boxing drills on the bag.
I highly recommend bag sprints for cardio|||burpies and pull ups jack knife crunches all day. Static holds for core strength , it does wonders for being able to absorb body punches. Other answers before me where great as well. Also don%26#039;t froget to jump rope 15 minutes before and stretch after.|||skip knees like 100 of them with ankle weights
What does jump rope do for you in boxing/muay thai training?
In Boxing and Muay Thai, jump rope (skipping) seems to play an important role in training. What is it for?|||Cardio, Muscular Endurance, Timing, hand eye coordination and work on footwork.
First it build up endurance in your legs, which is the very important for fighting, as you are constantly moving and changing levels with you legs.
Second it is a good solid cardio exercise, builds wind.;
Third: It allows you to develop a rythm and sense of timing, this helps you learn how to establish a tempo when fighting, or working at a level that you can maintain comfortably throughout a round.
Fourth: It builds coordination and body control, essential for learning and refining techniques. It also allows you to work on moving and footwork.
Fifth: It is a great way to warm up.
There are other benefits but that is pretty much the major points.|||Cardio. More importantly it makes your kicks more powerful. Of only a week of jumping exercises my calf muscles were a lot bigger and rock hard. Kicker%26#039;s legs!|||its absolutely excellent for cardio and stamina. it also fatigues your shoulders so this will help build muscular endurance of the shoulders which you will definately need in a fight cause you can be fighting for quite a while and you need endurance to keep yourself going.|||it build up you speed and indurance, it also elevaes your cardio, you are working and using oxygen so your heart rate is elevated and you are workingyour cafs. so by doing this you are getting faster and stronger cafs and your cardiovascular system has more ressistance and stamina.|||This is all just kind of a guess. Its probably just a cardiovascular workout. The only muscle group I could see it working is the calves, but not very much. But that is just my two cents.|||cardio, endurance as all have said. But also it is a footwork drill when done correctly, you don%26#039;t just hop up and down in the same spot.|||For conditioning but can also enhance shoulder endurance if you use a weighted rope.|||Western boxers have jumped rope for decades to build stamina .
%26gt;|||cardio, conditioning, and stamina|||it improves cardio, stamina, and endurance.|||Its a warm up. It gets your muscles ready and your blood pumping.|||cardio, endurance and speed|||i do the same drill for taekwondo it helps me with me leg speed and foot speed|||Lies.........and nothing but lies...........don%26#039;t believe these lieing liars.........they%26#039;re all liars!!
First it build up endurance in your legs, which is the very important for fighting, as you are constantly moving and changing levels with you legs.
Second it is a good solid cardio exercise, builds wind.;
Third: It allows you to develop a rythm and sense of timing, this helps you learn how to establish a tempo when fighting, or working at a level that you can maintain comfortably throughout a round.
Fourth: It builds coordination and body control, essential for learning and refining techniques. It also allows you to work on moving and footwork.
Fifth: It is a great way to warm up.
There are other benefits but that is pretty much the major points.|||Cardio. More importantly it makes your kicks more powerful. Of only a week of jumping exercises my calf muscles were a lot bigger and rock hard. Kicker%26#039;s legs!|||its absolutely excellent for cardio and stamina. it also fatigues your shoulders so this will help build muscular endurance of the shoulders which you will definately need in a fight cause you can be fighting for quite a while and you need endurance to keep yourself going.|||it build up you speed and indurance, it also elevaes your cardio, you are working and using oxygen so your heart rate is elevated and you are workingyour cafs. so by doing this you are getting faster and stronger cafs and your cardiovascular system has more ressistance and stamina.|||This is all just kind of a guess. Its probably just a cardiovascular workout. The only muscle group I could see it working is the calves, but not very much. But that is just my two cents.|||cardio, endurance as all have said. But also it is a footwork drill when done correctly, you don%26#039;t just hop up and down in the same spot.|||For conditioning but can also enhance shoulder endurance if you use a weighted rope.|||Western boxers have jumped rope for decades to build stamina .
%26gt;|||cardio, conditioning, and stamina|||it improves cardio, stamina, and endurance.|||Its a warm up. It gets your muscles ready and your blood pumping.|||cardio, endurance and speed|||i do the same drill for taekwondo it helps me with me leg speed and foot speed|||Lies.........and nothing but lies...........don%26#039;t believe these lieing liars.........they%26#039;re all liars!!
How do i train for a powerful and fast muay thai kick>?
what are the training and exercises i have to do to give a strong and fast muay thai kick?|||There%26#039;s no magic. The key is to practice proper technique. There is no better way to develop a kick than to kick the heavy bag and thai pads a few million times with perfect form. If you have good technique the power will develop. All the little things add to power. Turning your shoulder in, swinging your arm,proper hip rotation,not snapping your knee, pivoting your foot and many other factors. If you have a good trainer he can watch you and tell you what you%26#039;re doing wrong. Weights on the ankle is a terrible idea for muay thai. I can%26#039;t imagine throwing my shin into a heavy bag with a weight on it. It would probably kill your shins and ankles. I have seen guys use those workout bands around their ankles|||hmmm.. there is a fine line between fast, power, and (what you forgot) accurate... if you have the fastest most powerful kick in the world, and someone turned their knee into it... and you were low, hit their knee.... your shin is broke, may as well go kick a steel pole as hard as you can.... to everyone learning any martial art, proper technique, then accuracy, then power, then speed... my advice is to %26quot;calm down%26quot; get it right... then swing for the fences... good luck|||I wouldn%26#039;t bother with weight bands either. They%26#039;re alright for skipping or very light shadow boxing where you move slowly, but they%26#039;ll be a potential cause of injury if you%26#039;re performing dynamic moves.
One tip that hasn%26#039;t been mentioned is to aim behind the target. If you%26#039;re having trouble getting your hips to move try to follow the wall around as you kick. That will improve power. For speed concentrate on stretching and exercises like jump squats skipping, hill sprints, etc.|||use weighted ankle bracelet things while training. and just drill your kicks hard on a bag every day and as soon as you set your foot down it should be back up kickin the bag again. umm lift weights for strength.. for legs you could do leg extensions,squats,etc. uhh thats just a few things there are tons and tons of different ways of training.|||the best way is to go to muay thai classes and stay until your into black belt. next thing you know youll be breaking bricks
One tip that hasn%26#039;t been mentioned is to aim behind the target. If you%26#039;re having trouble getting your hips to move try to follow the wall around as you kick. That will improve power. For speed concentrate on stretching and exercises like jump squats skipping, hill sprints, etc.|||use weighted ankle bracelet things while training. and just drill your kicks hard on a bag every day and as soon as you set your foot down it should be back up kickin the bag again. umm lift weights for strength.. for legs you could do leg extensions,squats,etc. uhh thats just a few things there are tons and tons of different ways of training.|||the best way is to go to muay thai classes and stay until your into black belt. next thing you know youll be breaking bricks
How To Tell If A Muay Thai School Is Good?
I can usually tell when a person is feeding me bull, but since I am new to martial arts and and never been to a school, I would like some input as to tell what to look out for when your selecting a muay thai school|||It is very hard to put in words what you should be looking at (such as the angle the leg drops on a kick or such things) however their are certain characteristics you chould look for in an any school and they depend on your personal objectives.
Since you are adressing Muay thai I will assume you have a fighters mentality like mine. The simple way is to go in and watch a class or preferably several. Do they throw elbows and knees? Do they use the Muay Thai clinch when in closed corners? You can look in many differnt books and videos (you can usualy find reviews for good books) to see what you are looking for.
The most important things you should look at is the instructor. Titles and ranks mean little in todays age of unverified certificates so I always start with a simple GOOGLE of their name and see what i can find on the net. Also look at if their instructor has a solid reputation (again through GOOGLE if you can). Was the instructor ever a fighter? Virtualy all Muay Thai instructors were fighters, if so can you verify the record or results of any of his fights or titles he has claimed? Also of vital importance is %26quot;Does the trainer/teachers mentality work well with mine%26quot; -this can certainly doom your training if you have conflicting ideas of how or what you should train.
A couple of sites you may find interesting:
http://www.muaythai.com/
http://www.thaiboxing.com/ (This site has a list of schools)
http://www.usmta.com/ (This site also has a lsit of schools)
Be careful and have fun! Let me know if I can help with anything else
Ammendment: To answer the thoughts of Bushido and the like. I am not saying that GOOGLE will answer everything, but to try and find unbiased reports of fights recorded in a variety of journals or sites that post results. To say relying on google is bad because people can post anything, but then saying to go and talk to them alone is to me, even worse. It is easier to lie or mislead in person then it is to substantiate yourself online in more then a few articles. Furthermore, it matters little if one has said they fought in Thailand or not, as you may or may not be able to verify it (most often not). There is much to know and see about martial arts or Muay Thai specificaly. I stand by my statements and again say - Be careful, do research and have fun. Check as many schools as you can find, compare, teachers, students and environemnts.|||doing a google search or looking at the sights that list fighters and instructers wont prove anything.virtually anyone can put there name on the lists of the different associations etc. with little or no proof.the best way is to go to a couple of different schools and watch the way they train.also talk to the instructer and other students and find out how many of them have had real fights not just tournaments.if the instructer has fought in thailand or any of his fighters have you could safely say its a good school.|||Crutches on the wall, Huge first aid kits and Blood on the Floor. Thats what I%26#039;d expect to see.|||I%26#039;d have to agree with Bushido; don%26#039;t rely too much on Google, since anyone can post his name and join it up with any association.
I will be honest and tell you that I know next to nothing about Muay Thai. (OK... it%26#039;s a kick-boxing martial arts from Thailand, designed primarily for fighting... that%26#039;s all I know.) But I believe the general premise for finding a good school, no matter what the style, is the same:
1) Watch the classes. Look at how the instructor teaches and at the quality of the classes. Even if you don%26#039;t know much about martial arts, you can generally tell when someone is not giving their best, or when the instructor is not really paying attention to the students.
2) Talk with the instructor and maybe some of the students. Don%26#039;t be afraid to ask questions. Have them provide reasons for any statements they make- like, why they do things a certain way, etc. If the instructor is comfortable and honest with your questions, then he has nothing to hide and it%26#039;s probably a decent school.
3) Look around; check out other schools. You will see different levels of quality and different ways of teaching, so looking around may help you decide what you want to get out of Muay Thai.
I don%26#039;t know how much a decent Muay Thai school would cost, so can%26#039;t help you there, but if you can just look at the classes and see how they%26#039;re run, I think you will be able to decide for yourself.|||The easiest way is to look for the fighters it has and/or how they perform in tournaments, the results will tell you how good the school is.|||You can tell a good Muay Thai school if the instructor is Tuff on you and the dojo is sickin.
Since you are adressing Muay thai I will assume you have a fighters mentality like mine. The simple way is to go in and watch a class or preferably several. Do they throw elbows and knees? Do they use the Muay Thai clinch when in closed corners? You can look in many differnt books and videos (you can usualy find reviews for good books) to see what you are looking for.
The most important things you should look at is the instructor. Titles and ranks mean little in todays age of unverified certificates so I always start with a simple GOOGLE of their name and see what i can find on the net. Also look at if their instructor has a solid reputation (again through GOOGLE if you can). Was the instructor ever a fighter? Virtualy all Muay Thai instructors were fighters, if so can you verify the record or results of any of his fights or titles he has claimed? Also of vital importance is %26quot;Does the trainer/teachers mentality work well with mine%26quot; -this can certainly doom your training if you have conflicting ideas of how or what you should train.
A couple of sites you may find interesting:
http://www.muaythai.com/
http://www.thaiboxing.com/ (This site has a list of schools)
http://www.usmta.com/ (This site also has a lsit of schools)
Be careful and have fun! Let me know if I can help with anything else
Ammendment: To answer the thoughts of Bushido and the like. I am not saying that GOOGLE will answer everything, but to try and find unbiased reports of fights recorded in a variety of journals or sites that post results. To say relying on google is bad because people can post anything, but then saying to go and talk to them alone is to me, even worse. It is easier to lie or mislead in person then it is to substantiate yourself online in more then a few articles. Furthermore, it matters little if one has said they fought in Thailand or not, as you may or may not be able to verify it (most often not). There is much to know and see about martial arts or Muay Thai specificaly. I stand by my statements and again say - Be careful, do research and have fun. Check as many schools as you can find, compare, teachers, students and environemnts.|||doing a google search or looking at the sights that list fighters and instructers wont prove anything.virtually anyone can put there name on the lists of the different associations etc. with little or no proof.the best way is to go to a couple of different schools and watch the way they train.also talk to the instructer and other students and find out how many of them have had real fights not just tournaments.if the instructer has fought in thailand or any of his fighters have you could safely say its a good school.|||Crutches on the wall, Huge first aid kits and Blood on the Floor. Thats what I%26#039;d expect to see.|||I%26#039;d have to agree with Bushido; don%26#039;t rely too much on Google, since anyone can post his name and join it up with any association.
I will be honest and tell you that I know next to nothing about Muay Thai. (OK... it%26#039;s a kick-boxing martial arts from Thailand, designed primarily for fighting... that%26#039;s all I know.) But I believe the general premise for finding a good school, no matter what the style, is the same:
1) Watch the classes. Look at how the instructor teaches and at the quality of the classes. Even if you don%26#039;t know much about martial arts, you can generally tell when someone is not giving their best, or when the instructor is not really paying attention to the students.
2) Talk with the instructor and maybe some of the students. Don%26#039;t be afraid to ask questions. Have them provide reasons for any statements they make- like, why they do things a certain way, etc. If the instructor is comfortable and honest with your questions, then he has nothing to hide and it%26#039;s probably a decent school.
3) Look around; check out other schools. You will see different levels of quality and different ways of teaching, so looking around may help you decide what you want to get out of Muay Thai.
I don%26#039;t know how much a decent Muay Thai school would cost, so can%26#039;t help you there, but if you can just look at the classes and see how they%26#039;re run, I think you will be able to decide for yourself.|||The easiest way is to look for the fighters it has and/or how they perform in tournaments, the results will tell you how good the school is.|||You can tell a good Muay Thai school if the instructor is Tuff on you and the dojo is sickin.
Can anyone point me towards what to do during training for Muay Thai?
I don%26#039;t want to train my body, I want to train my technique. Honestly, I%26#039;m clueless on how to properly do any kick or elbow or even knee Muay Thai style correctly.... (Haven%26#039;t started yet)
Oh and btw, I am going to have a standing punching\kicking bag, handwraps and boxing gloves when I start. (Should be in 3 or 4 days, need about $40 more)
So does anyone happen to have a video or anything to help with technique on strikes?|||In order to learn proper muay thai techniques, you not only need to train your body, as it must be in top physical shape, but need proper instruction, and correction when doing the drills and sparring.
Learning muay thai through videos and not from a school would be like learning to drive without instruction, you might learn the basics, while the risk of crashing is high, and what you learn is questionable as far as quality.
Muay thai fighters train 5-6 hours a day, their abs are rock solid, and that%26#039;s why the traditional muay thai stance has your hands high, because any blows to the stomach are pretty much dismissed because your abs are rock solid. The Dutch (closest second muay thai fighters in the word), have a different stance, because of it%26#039;s kyokushin influence), still they also train their bodies just as hard as thais.
Learning how to kick, knee, elbow,punch a bag is NOT learning muay thai, you%26#039;ll never learn the muay thai clinch, and sparring is a essential part while learning muay thai, bruises are not uncommon, that%26#039;s why practitioners are tough-as-nails, neglecting this essential part of training will make your defense technique practically null, you%26#039;ll never know how to react when being kicked or punched, and believe me, it%26#039;s not the same as a punching bag.
As far as wraps and gloves, make sure you ALWAYS wrap your hands while punching the bag, and you have at least 10oz gloves when hitting it, and you need 16oz gloves for sparring, which unless you have a partner, you won%26#039;t do.
I suggest you take a muay thai class every once in a while, to learn at least the basics, then you can practice and condition at home, remember that a muay thai fighter without condition is useless, technique is worthless is you can%26#039;t last one round, you NEED to train your body. Alot of times a fighter with higher conditioning beats an opponent with better technique via out-cardio.
i hope this info was useful
good luck!|||The problem is you need an instructor to give you the nuances of the art to truly train Muay Thai. Contrary to popular belief, there is more than one roundhouse kick, more than one style of punch, and some very different movements involved in Muay Thai that are not that easy to translate into words and video. Sure, you can watch video for days, weeks, months even, and still not be squeezing the best technique out of your kicks.
For instance, their are two distinct roundhouses: chopping and cutting. Chopping comes in parallell to the ground or from a 15-45 degree angle up-to-down, ie. like chopping downward with an axe. You will shift your weight onto the front leg, bringing rear leg up with leg slightly bent at knee, then chop downward as you %26quot;turn over%26quot; at shin, connecting withtarget, your body slightly slanted away from targetline, knee still slightly bent. This is a chopping knee.
A cutting knee is almost the exact opposite. It cuts upwards at 45 degree angle from floor to target, almost always the outer or inner thigh. You will shift weight as you perform the movement instead of loading the weight before the movement. Kick upwards from floor, turning over at last moment as shin connects with lower thigh, 2 inches above knee. Your leg should be slightly bent again, but your body should torque over at the hips and hands as you turn over the shin.
The chopping kick misleads a fighter into thinking you%26#039;re aiming for the ribcage, then dropping a kick to the thigh. The cutting kick is far faster and strikes so swiftly that the opponent has little chance to check it if they don%26#039;t see it coming.
I won%26#039;t even go into the three methods for knees, or the four angles for elbows, the modified punching methods, coiling the body, tucking the chin, the stance, all subtle things that are needed to truly work the art. If you want to train Muay Thai, get an instructor. If you want to know what it%26#039;s like before training, go to youtube and watch video. But don%26#039;t buy videos and expect to train up to a high level.|||You can look on you tube. There are heaps of vids on there about muay thai. When you punch, you need to keep your opposite hand up to cover your jaw, keep the shoulder of the arm that%26#039;s punching up too. You need to punch with the rotation of your whole body. Push from your legs, twist your hips, twist your shoulders and then throw out the punch. When you kick, keep your leg pretty much straight, lean back, twist your hips and swing your leg like a baseball bat, kicking with your lower shin. As you kick, rotate the foot that%26#039;s on the ground, twisting your heel to face the target(for more power), and twist your hip as you land the kick.|||check out www.centurymartialarts.com or combat sports. They have tons of videos, exactly what you are looking for. Muay Thai is a really fun, intense sport. Good luck and have fun!
Btw, listen to %26quot;Jimbo%26quot;......everything he said was right on target.|||don%26#039;t watch ufc. it%26#039;s sissy bull****
Oh and btw, I am going to have a standing punching\kicking bag, handwraps and boxing gloves when I start. (Should be in 3 or 4 days, need about $40 more)
So does anyone happen to have a video or anything to help with technique on strikes?|||In order to learn proper muay thai techniques, you not only need to train your body, as it must be in top physical shape, but need proper instruction, and correction when doing the drills and sparring.
Learning muay thai through videos and not from a school would be like learning to drive without instruction, you might learn the basics, while the risk of crashing is high, and what you learn is questionable as far as quality.
Muay thai fighters train 5-6 hours a day, their abs are rock solid, and that%26#039;s why the traditional muay thai stance has your hands high, because any blows to the stomach are pretty much dismissed because your abs are rock solid. The Dutch (closest second muay thai fighters in the word), have a different stance, because of it%26#039;s kyokushin influence), still they also train their bodies just as hard as thais.
Learning how to kick, knee, elbow,punch a bag is NOT learning muay thai, you%26#039;ll never learn the muay thai clinch, and sparring is a essential part while learning muay thai, bruises are not uncommon, that%26#039;s why practitioners are tough-as-nails, neglecting this essential part of training will make your defense technique practically null, you%26#039;ll never know how to react when being kicked or punched, and believe me, it%26#039;s not the same as a punching bag.
As far as wraps and gloves, make sure you ALWAYS wrap your hands while punching the bag, and you have at least 10oz gloves when hitting it, and you need 16oz gloves for sparring, which unless you have a partner, you won%26#039;t do.
I suggest you take a muay thai class every once in a while, to learn at least the basics, then you can practice and condition at home, remember that a muay thai fighter without condition is useless, technique is worthless is you can%26#039;t last one round, you NEED to train your body. Alot of times a fighter with higher conditioning beats an opponent with better technique via out-cardio.
i hope this info was useful
good luck!|||The problem is you need an instructor to give you the nuances of the art to truly train Muay Thai. Contrary to popular belief, there is more than one roundhouse kick, more than one style of punch, and some very different movements involved in Muay Thai that are not that easy to translate into words and video. Sure, you can watch video for days, weeks, months even, and still not be squeezing the best technique out of your kicks.
For instance, their are two distinct roundhouses: chopping and cutting. Chopping comes in parallell to the ground or from a 15-45 degree angle up-to-down, ie. like chopping downward with an axe. You will shift your weight onto the front leg, bringing rear leg up with leg slightly bent at knee, then chop downward as you %26quot;turn over%26quot; at shin, connecting withtarget, your body slightly slanted away from targetline, knee still slightly bent. This is a chopping knee.
A cutting knee is almost the exact opposite. It cuts upwards at 45 degree angle from floor to target, almost always the outer or inner thigh. You will shift weight as you perform the movement instead of loading the weight before the movement. Kick upwards from floor, turning over at last moment as shin connects with lower thigh, 2 inches above knee. Your leg should be slightly bent again, but your body should torque over at the hips and hands as you turn over the shin.
The chopping kick misleads a fighter into thinking you%26#039;re aiming for the ribcage, then dropping a kick to the thigh. The cutting kick is far faster and strikes so swiftly that the opponent has little chance to check it if they don%26#039;t see it coming.
I won%26#039;t even go into the three methods for knees, or the four angles for elbows, the modified punching methods, coiling the body, tucking the chin, the stance, all subtle things that are needed to truly work the art. If you want to train Muay Thai, get an instructor. If you want to know what it%26#039;s like before training, go to youtube and watch video. But don%26#039;t buy videos and expect to train up to a high level.|||You can look on you tube. There are heaps of vids on there about muay thai. When you punch, you need to keep your opposite hand up to cover your jaw, keep the shoulder of the arm that%26#039;s punching up too. You need to punch with the rotation of your whole body. Push from your legs, twist your hips, twist your shoulders and then throw out the punch. When you kick, keep your leg pretty much straight, lean back, twist your hips and swing your leg like a baseball bat, kicking with your lower shin. As you kick, rotate the foot that%26#039;s on the ground, twisting your heel to face the target(for more power), and twist your hip as you land the kick.|||check out www.centurymartialarts.com or combat sports. They have tons of videos, exactly what you are looking for. Muay Thai is a really fun, intense sport. Good luck and have fun!
Btw, listen to %26quot;Jimbo%26quot;......everything he said was right on target.|||don%26#039;t watch ufc. it%26#039;s sissy bull****
Does Muay Thai or Kickboxing teach you how to fight multiple attackers?
I wan to learn martial arts and have a Muay Thai and Kickboxing club near me. I just wanted to know whether they teach you how to defend yourself against multiple attackers|||learn krav magra
|||No it doesn%26#039;t. Did you ever see more than a one on one situation in the ring where the fighters contest one another? Muay Thai is a sport which happens to have some good kicks.
To learn how to handle multiple attackers effectively, this one would suggest that you study aikido as taught by O%26#039;Sesnsei Morihei Ueshiba and his students.
After having studied Chinese, Korean and Japanese martial arts, Western boxing, various weapon systems, having fought professionally, served as a bodyguard, been in combat situation and taught, this one has never found a system more complete or as effective as aikido.
Aikido often appears to be counter intuitive, to be weak and ineffective but let me assure you, nothing could be further from the truth.
Please, check out the local dojo, the history of the art and of the founder, watch the videos of O%26#039;Sensei, Yamada Sensei, Chiba Sensei, etc., read the published works of John Stevens and Sensei Saotome.
May your journey be well.|||best defense against multiple attackers is running. its just to risky if you they surround you and you dont have your eyes on all of them and one or two of them grab you the others can beat the life out of you simple as that.
now a good punch to the face or knee to the body to multiple opponents can create an opening to escape but like i said earlier being able to keep them off of you and leave is your best bet.
so the things you learn in muay thai can help you fight multiple attackers but the focus of muay thai is not to teach you to fight multiple attackers|||Muay Thai is a sport that typically puts one fighter against another. It is one of the most effective martial arts otherwise|||Kickboxing doesn%26#039;t neither does the Western version of Muay Thai as they are both sports. As for Aikido, the locks do work but no one will ever run 30 feet and grab your wrist|||no its mainly one on one|||Learn Wing Tsun!it%26#039;s the best!
|||No it doesn%26#039;t. Did you ever see more than a one on one situation in the ring where the fighters contest one another? Muay Thai is a sport which happens to have some good kicks.
To learn how to handle multiple attackers effectively, this one would suggest that you study aikido as taught by O%26#039;Sesnsei Morihei Ueshiba and his students.
After having studied Chinese, Korean and Japanese martial arts, Western boxing, various weapon systems, having fought professionally, served as a bodyguard, been in combat situation and taught, this one has never found a system more complete or as effective as aikido.
Aikido often appears to be counter intuitive, to be weak and ineffective but let me assure you, nothing could be further from the truth.
Please, check out the local dojo, the history of the art and of the founder, watch the videos of O%26#039;Sensei, Yamada Sensei, Chiba Sensei, etc., read the published works of John Stevens and Sensei Saotome.
May your journey be well.|||best defense against multiple attackers is running. its just to risky if you they surround you and you dont have your eyes on all of them and one or two of them grab you the others can beat the life out of you simple as that.
now a good punch to the face or knee to the body to multiple opponents can create an opening to escape but like i said earlier being able to keep them off of you and leave is your best bet.
so the things you learn in muay thai can help you fight multiple attackers but the focus of muay thai is not to teach you to fight multiple attackers|||Muay Thai is a sport that typically puts one fighter against another. It is one of the most effective martial arts otherwise|||Kickboxing doesn%26#039;t neither does the Western version of Muay Thai as they are both sports. As for Aikido, the locks do work but no one will ever run 30 feet and grab your wrist|||no its mainly one on one|||Learn Wing Tsun!it%26#039;s the best!
Which is a more lethal martial art, technique wise; Muay Thai or Savate?
I%26#039;ve seen in Fight Quest that Savate moves are so deadly that some were banned in competitions. But I just can%26#039;t help thinking that Muay Thai, the most dangerous sport in the world, would be more lethal. What do you think?|||Both are lethal in their own way.
Savate kicks are more accurate, faster and therefore can be quite deadly.
Muay thai kicks are stronger, more telegraphed, with more anything goes mentality including elbows, knees and grappling.
Both Savate and Muay Thai have their %26#039;banned%26#039; techniques, so that really isn%26#039;t relevant. It%26#039;s just horses for courses. If you can, train in both!|||Savate have fast and accurae kicks but dont underestimate muay thai. The real form of muay thai is muay boran or muay chaiya. Ive seen it personally. A pro muay chaiya boxer against a pro savate fighter. Savate went his hardest while the muay chaiya boxers didnt even try. %26#039;%26#039;Some%26#039;%26#039; were banned because of savate but %26#039;%26#039;all%26#039;%26#039; of muay chaiya and boran were banned and forgotten due to its extremely high deah rate. Muay thai is called the most devastating and brutal martial art in the world for a reason.|||fight quest is not an accurate representation of learning a martial art- while it is interesting (to me) when they do the history and just has a %26quot;train wreck%26quot; effect that no matter how hard I try, I just can%26#039;t avoid rubbernecking these shows (human weapon is the other that used to be on).
these guys have training prior to whatever 2-3 day training they learn so all they can really pick up is one or two techniques or add something to something they already know. not learn an entire system.
the most lethal martial art is NEVER going to be an unarmed martial art. If you doubt me, go find a dog brothers seminar near you- even if you just watch you%26#039;ll see the lethality of weapons training that just can%26#039;t be matched by any unarmed martial art (except maybe the %26quot;mafia%26quot; style %26quot;hold him boys while I beat the crap out of him%26quot;).
the skill of a martial art is found int he training methodology and the teacher. if the savate guy trained harder and more realistic than the MT guy- then the savate guy will have an advantage if the mt guy did then vice versa-
I should point out however if we are talking about %26quot;traditional%26quot; savate, which originally was trained with a stick or cane in the hands- then obviously savate will have an advantage because they have a weapon (which is why I mentioned it before), but the way you asked it indicates unarmed combat.|||If you%26#039;re talking about outside the ring, then both can be lethal depending on the practitioner. But if you meant inside the ring, then the fact that traditional Muay Thai fought in Thailand employs elbows, knees and in the old days even headbutts gives it the higher chance of being more lethal and result in serious injury during a match.|||I honestly would have to disagree with you that Muay Thai is the most dangerous sport in the world, but I digress. I definetly agree with djnight that a style is a style. All can be lethal in their own right, and it comes down to the fighter more then anything, and his will to survive.|||Styles are styles. Fighters are lethal. Pick one, train hard.|||They have different methods, but in the end a kick is a kick and both can kill you.|||Muay Thai
Savate kicks are more accurate, faster and therefore can be quite deadly.
Muay thai kicks are stronger, more telegraphed, with more anything goes mentality including elbows, knees and grappling.
Both Savate and Muay Thai have their %26#039;banned%26#039; techniques, so that really isn%26#039;t relevant. It%26#039;s just horses for courses. If you can, train in both!|||Savate have fast and accurae kicks but dont underestimate muay thai. The real form of muay thai is muay boran or muay chaiya. Ive seen it personally. A pro muay chaiya boxer against a pro savate fighter. Savate went his hardest while the muay chaiya boxers didnt even try. %26#039;%26#039;Some%26#039;%26#039; were banned because of savate but %26#039;%26#039;all%26#039;%26#039; of muay chaiya and boran were banned and forgotten due to its extremely high deah rate. Muay thai is called the most devastating and brutal martial art in the world for a reason.|||fight quest is not an accurate representation of learning a martial art- while it is interesting (to me) when they do the history and just has a %26quot;train wreck%26quot; effect that no matter how hard I try, I just can%26#039;t avoid rubbernecking these shows (human weapon is the other that used to be on).
these guys have training prior to whatever 2-3 day training they learn so all they can really pick up is one or two techniques or add something to something they already know. not learn an entire system.
the most lethal martial art is NEVER going to be an unarmed martial art. If you doubt me, go find a dog brothers seminar near you- even if you just watch you%26#039;ll see the lethality of weapons training that just can%26#039;t be matched by any unarmed martial art (except maybe the %26quot;mafia%26quot; style %26quot;hold him boys while I beat the crap out of him%26quot;).
the skill of a martial art is found int he training methodology and the teacher. if the savate guy trained harder and more realistic than the MT guy- then the savate guy will have an advantage if the mt guy did then vice versa-
I should point out however if we are talking about %26quot;traditional%26quot; savate, which originally was trained with a stick or cane in the hands- then obviously savate will have an advantage because they have a weapon (which is why I mentioned it before), but the way you asked it indicates unarmed combat.|||If you%26#039;re talking about outside the ring, then both can be lethal depending on the practitioner. But if you meant inside the ring, then the fact that traditional Muay Thai fought in Thailand employs elbows, knees and in the old days even headbutts gives it the higher chance of being more lethal and result in serious injury during a match.|||I honestly would have to disagree with you that Muay Thai is the most dangerous sport in the world, but I digress. I definetly agree with djnight that a style is a style. All can be lethal in their own right, and it comes down to the fighter more then anything, and his will to survive.|||Styles are styles. Fighters are lethal. Pick one, train hard.|||They have different methods, but in the end a kick is a kick and both can kill you.|||Muay Thai
Where can I find a good Muay Thai gym/instructor in norther IL?
I live in Gurnee, Illinois.
I%26#039;ve been searching for boxing or muay thai gym but I had no luck.
Where can I find one that is close to Gurnee and also has a great instructor and gym?|||use yahoo martial arts directory
I%26#039;ve been searching for boxing or muay thai gym but I had no luck.
Where can I find one that is close to Gurnee and also has a great instructor and gym?|||use yahoo martial arts directory
Can I still fight or train in mma or muay thai?
Im kind of skinny and weigh about 120 lbs and about 5%26#039;6 but I find myself very small but I%26#039;ve always wanted to do this and I don%26#039;t want to let my size have an affect on it. Im mainly aiming for muay thai right now.|||go for it - there are plenty of fighters that are your size. |||From all the different posts you have put up, it sounds like you want to try mma or Muay Thai but are nervous about a few aspects. I cannot speak on mma training as I do not do it myself, I train Muay Thai, but I can tell you about that. There is nothing for you to be concerned about. First you must find a reputable instructor. Go watch a class first. In a beginning class there should not be any sparring or heavy contact. You will mainly be working on the heavybag, with Thai pads (long rectangular pads) or doing drills with a partner. Your class should be well supervised and there should be a lot of emphasis on basic techniques.
Thin people are well suited for Muay Thai. Check out some video footage on well established Muay Thai fighters like Buakaw por Pramuk or Namsaknoi. Those guys are thin and muscular. You will also build muscle as your body gets accustomed to using certain techniques.
If you are around Atlanta, come to my gym, Unit 2. You can look us up online. If not, you can almost certainly find a reputable gym in your area. Just remember that if you want to train Muay Thai, you%26#039;ll need to go to a gym that teaches authentic Muay Thai and not just %26quot;stand-up%26quot; for mma, which will not really be Muay Thai. Best of luck, and remember there%26#039;s no reason to be intimidated.|||Haha dude, you%26#039;re like me then. I%26#039;m about 5%26#039;6 or 5%26#039;7 and 117 and could I do Muay Thai and could probably lay down the ban hammer. As long as you have toughness and good technique, it doesn%26#039;t matter who is in front of you. You%26#039;re going to hurt them.
Sorry i DO muay thai, not could do. I currently DO muay thai|||Go for it, Most of the fighters are shorter anyway. Height doesn%26#039;t limit you to these things if you find your own style. Just start dodging them kicks and grabs and bulk up a little while your at it and start piling some hurt while your on the inside.
Thin people are well suited for Muay Thai. Check out some video footage on well established Muay Thai fighters like Buakaw por Pramuk or Namsaknoi. Those guys are thin and muscular. You will also build muscle as your body gets accustomed to using certain techniques.
If you are around Atlanta, come to my gym, Unit 2. You can look us up online. If not, you can almost certainly find a reputable gym in your area. Just remember that if you want to train Muay Thai, you%26#039;ll need to go to a gym that teaches authentic Muay Thai and not just %26quot;stand-up%26quot; for mma, which will not really be Muay Thai. Best of luck, and remember there%26#039;s no reason to be intimidated.|||Haha dude, you%26#039;re like me then. I%26#039;m about 5%26#039;6 or 5%26#039;7 and 117 and could I do Muay Thai and could probably lay down the ban hammer. As long as you have toughness and good technique, it doesn%26#039;t matter who is in front of you. You%26#039;re going to hurt them.
Sorry i DO muay thai, not could do. I currently DO muay thai|||Go for it, Most of the fighters are shorter anyway. Height doesn%26#039;t limit you to these things if you find your own style. Just start dodging them kicks and grabs and bulk up a little while your at it and start piling some hurt while your on the inside.
Are there any places i can go to learn muay thai in sydney?
i live in sydney
are there anyplaces where i can go learn muay thai
somwhere in the city or like north sydney??
places like blacktown are to far away...are there any good ones here i can go to?|||google it in your district mate, will give you a load of locations :)
are there anyplaces where i can go learn muay thai
somwhere in the city or like north sydney??
places like blacktown are to far away...are there any good ones here i can go to?|||google it in your district mate, will give you a load of locations :)
Im transitioning from boxing to muay thai and i am looking for some good ankle supports?
is there a difference between ones used for Muay Thai and ones used for other sports or are they all designed the same?|||A regular ankle brace should be fine; as long as it doesn%26#039;t limit the mobility of your ankle too much.|||not sure|||dont know sorry
I started muay thai and i need help figuring out a training schedule ?
i train muay thai 2 times a week at the gym. the training is on tuesdays and thursday. in between what should i train and on what days?
i own a 6ft punching bag and have 2pairs of 16oz gloves at home for training which my brother helps me with.
any ideas?|||Just work on the basics that you just learned. Technique will go a long way.|||Train whenever you have free time.
i own a 6ft punching bag and have 2pairs of 16oz gloves at home for training which my brother helps me with.
any ideas?|||Just work on the basics that you just learned. Technique will go a long way.|||Train whenever you have free time.
Is there any way to learn proper Muay Thai withou any money?
I am particularly interested in Muay Thai Boran, but any branch is easily acceptable.|||books/videos
people say yeh its better to have someone teach it 2 u. but who sed they know the right way?? i mean if u learn from a book or video and it works dusnt that make it correct also?
the teacher will teach u in the method that works best for them however if u adapt the style urself u learn it to the way that suits u best.
its the best solution of learning without money
nutin as a free lunch. sum1 willin 2 teach u without money i take my hat off to them.|||In Thailand, there%26#039;s a gym that would take you for free if you%26#039;re capable of keeping up with whatever they make you do. Meaning they only want someone who%26#039;s determined to become a professional fighter. Even if you%26#039;re able to keep up on day one but can%26#039;t on the next day, they%26#039;ll kick you out. You wouldn%26#039;t be able to complain because they%26#039;re letting you do it for free.|||you are very limited in your options. You can try to find someone that will teach you for free or you can learn through books and videos. I wouldn%26#039;t recommend going the book/video route unless you have taken some classes already. You can learn alot from instructionals but unfortunately without learning proper technique first. Without someone critiquing you while you are performing the techniques you could develop incredibly bad form.
For instance there are alot of things people do like drop their hands when punching and alot of the times you don%26#039;t notice unless someone tells you. Another example would be counter balancing yourself when throwing kicks. You most likely will be shown these things in a video but there is a good chance you won%26#039;t be performing correctly.
I think once you get the basics down from learning in a class setting you could transition into the videos/books. You%26#039;ll have a better understanding of what you are being taught from actually seeing it in a live setting and performing in live setting rather than just seeing it on your tv or reading about it.|||I did, but that was back in the late 1970%26#039;s and early 1980%26#039;s when Muay Thai was new in the United States. Today, there are thousands of schools and instructors whose only goal is to make money by training students. I am sure there are retired fighters out there like me who are not necessarily instructors, but would gladly offer you advice for free. There is no replacement for a good instructor though and that will cost you today.|||Go around to all of the schools in the area, explain your situation and offer to work for tuition--cleaning the school, etc.|||Find a muay thai instructor who%26#039;ll have you paint his fences, sand his floors, and wash and wax his cars.|||Best choice for free would be www.youtube.com
they have everything on there... other than that.. you could problaby search it up on yahoo and read about the moves..|||its somewhat possible to learn muay thai through videos and books
there are many books and videos out their which are great to supplement training but nothing beats an instructor watching over you. even though you may think you are doing things right an instructor can fine tune your skills and tell you the lil tiny things you are doing wrong.
even after 3 yrs of training my coach still coaches me throughout sparring giving me real time feedback and things to work on
it also possible if you are learning the technique wrong then when you actually do have money and get professional training you%26#039;ll take longer to learn because you have to go over all the stuff you previously learned
books and videos are good at showing other aspects of training your coach doesnt focus on and you can practice and improve from there but as a sole means on learning its not the best
when i started thai boxing my coach handed me a piece of paper saying the times of practice, the equipment i needed, and a book he recommended me reading, but of course he didnt want me to only learn through the book, just to help with my training
so books and videos are one idea thats fairly cheap but like i said they are better supplements.
next cheap idea is to find someone in your area on something like myspace.com meetup.com, at a rec center, college club that knows/practice muay thai that%26#039;ll teach you for free or next to nothing
and of course theres actually muay thai lessons from a gym but of course that cost money usually anywhere from $60-$120 per month
those are pretty much your only options good luck finding a way to learn muay thai. i love it. i pay $90 per month and to me its worth every penny. i highly recommend you join a gym whenever money is no longer an issue|||Find a someone who is already paying for lessons and make friends with them. And then, have them teach you.
people say yeh its better to have someone teach it 2 u. but who sed they know the right way?? i mean if u learn from a book or video and it works dusnt that make it correct also?
the teacher will teach u in the method that works best for them however if u adapt the style urself u learn it to the way that suits u best.
its the best solution of learning without money
nutin as a free lunch. sum1 willin 2 teach u without money i take my hat off to them.|||In Thailand, there%26#039;s a gym that would take you for free if you%26#039;re capable of keeping up with whatever they make you do. Meaning they only want someone who%26#039;s determined to become a professional fighter. Even if you%26#039;re able to keep up on day one but can%26#039;t on the next day, they%26#039;ll kick you out. You wouldn%26#039;t be able to complain because they%26#039;re letting you do it for free.|||you are very limited in your options. You can try to find someone that will teach you for free or you can learn through books and videos. I wouldn%26#039;t recommend going the book/video route unless you have taken some classes already. You can learn alot from instructionals but unfortunately without learning proper technique first. Without someone critiquing you while you are performing the techniques you could develop incredibly bad form.
For instance there are alot of things people do like drop their hands when punching and alot of the times you don%26#039;t notice unless someone tells you. Another example would be counter balancing yourself when throwing kicks. You most likely will be shown these things in a video but there is a good chance you won%26#039;t be performing correctly.
I think once you get the basics down from learning in a class setting you could transition into the videos/books. You%26#039;ll have a better understanding of what you are being taught from actually seeing it in a live setting and performing in live setting rather than just seeing it on your tv or reading about it.|||I did, but that was back in the late 1970%26#039;s and early 1980%26#039;s when Muay Thai was new in the United States. Today, there are thousands of schools and instructors whose only goal is to make money by training students. I am sure there are retired fighters out there like me who are not necessarily instructors, but would gladly offer you advice for free. There is no replacement for a good instructor though and that will cost you today.|||Go around to all of the schools in the area, explain your situation and offer to work for tuition--cleaning the school, etc.|||Find a muay thai instructor who%26#039;ll have you paint his fences, sand his floors, and wash and wax his cars.|||Best choice for free would be www.youtube.com
they have everything on there... other than that.. you could problaby search it up on yahoo and read about the moves..|||its somewhat possible to learn muay thai through videos and books
there are many books and videos out their which are great to supplement training but nothing beats an instructor watching over you. even though you may think you are doing things right an instructor can fine tune your skills and tell you the lil tiny things you are doing wrong.
even after 3 yrs of training my coach still coaches me throughout sparring giving me real time feedback and things to work on
it also possible if you are learning the technique wrong then when you actually do have money and get professional training you%26#039;ll take longer to learn because you have to go over all the stuff you previously learned
books and videos are good at showing other aspects of training your coach doesnt focus on and you can practice and improve from there but as a sole means on learning its not the best
when i started thai boxing my coach handed me a piece of paper saying the times of practice, the equipment i needed, and a book he recommended me reading, but of course he didnt want me to only learn through the book, just to help with my training
so books and videos are one idea thats fairly cheap but like i said they are better supplements.
next cheap idea is to find someone in your area on something like myspace.com meetup.com, at a rec center, college club that knows/practice muay thai that%26#039;ll teach you for free or next to nothing
and of course theres actually muay thai lessons from a gym but of course that cost money usually anywhere from $60-$120 per month
those are pretty much your only options good luck finding a way to learn muay thai. i love it. i pay $90 per month and to me its worth every penny. i highly recommend you join a gym whenever money is no longer an issue|||Find a someone who is already paying for lessons and make friends with them. And then, have them teach you.
Is it okay for 14 year olds to learn Muay Thai ?
I%26#039;m 14 and really interested in Muay Thai and Pradal Serey. I grew up watching Muay Thai and Cambodian boxing fights and I love it. Is it okay for a person my age to learn Muay Thai ?|||Yes.|||In Thailand, some kids start from five years old.
But the age doesn%26#039;t matter. As long as you train properly, you%26#039;ll be able to reach the person starting from that age%26#039;s level.|||yes im 14 and ive been doing it for about 2 months now
its a good workout and teaches alot, but try and find a gym that can train everyday like mine|||Theres no time like the present. You%26#039;ll be better off learning now then if you were to wait until your body was less limber.|||ive heard of kids starting it at age of 7 and such, of course its fine.|||Of course. Start now !|||Yeah go ahead.|||why not dude
try hard %26amp; good luck.|||yes
But the age doesn%26#039;t matter. As long as you train properly, you%26#039;ll be able to reach the person starting from that age%26#039;s level.|||yes im 14 and ive been doing it for about 2 months now
its a good workout and teaches alot, but try and find a gym that can train everyday like mine|||Theres no time like the present. You%26#039;ll be better off learning now then if you were to wait until your body was less limber.|||ive heard of kids starting it at age of 7 and such, of course its fine.|||Of course. Start now !|||Yeah go ahead.|||why not dude
try hard %26amp; good luck.|||yes
Im making a video game and I need to know what are some muay thai weapons.?
Ok here is the deal , I want to put a muay thai character in a game Im making and I need to know, what are some muay thai or muay thai related weapons. I should know as muay thai is one of the styles I do but I dont. I recall seeing something escrima like once. Im aiming for the character to have a kinda of barbarian , shaman-like look so anything that goes with that would be good. Also , being that I only learned the kickboxing element, I need some of the weapons strong and weak points. Oh and if their are none in muay thai you can go into muay boran weapons if you want.|||Look up Krabi Krabong on Wikipedia ,its also a martial indigenous to Thailand, it has a lot of the same moves as
Muay Thai. This martial art is primarily a weapons art,single sword, double sword. a weapon that looks like a tonfa, etc.
good luck
tosa|||a ratton cane is something they use.|||why dontcha create yr own wepons ?!USE YR IMAGINATION
lol|||i do MT and seriously, weapon%26#039;s are just not used (atleast not these days)... not even on Wikipedia . com does it mention a thing about weapons.
If you want it to just %26quot;look cool%26quot;, throw in a lot of the elbow/knee combo%26#039;s with some clinch%26#039;s :P|||i think the most common weapons used where tahi swords which are like short swords sort of you use one in each hand and a spear they are the only ones i know of|||it muay thai atleats now there are no weapons used at all|||Elbows, fists, knees, shins, and feet. Head as well.|||The best Muay thai weapons are fists, shins, elbows, knees.
Muay Thai. This martial art is primarily a weapons art,single sword, double sword. a weapon that looks like a tonfa, etc.
good luck
tosa|||a ratton cane is something they use.|||why dontcha create yr own wepons ?!USE YR IMAGINATION
lol|||i do MT and seriously, weapon%26#039;s are just not used (atleast not these days)... not even on Wikipedia . com does it mention a thing about weapons.
If you want it to just %26quot;look cool%26quot;, throw in a lot of the elbow/knee combo%26#039;s with some clinch%26#039;s :P|||i think the most common weapons used where tahi swords which are like short swords sort of you use one in each hand and a spear they are the only ones i know of|||it muay thai atleats now there are no weapons used at all|||Elbows, fists, knees, shins, and feet. Head as well.|||The best Muay thai weapons are fists, shins, elbows, knees.
Are there any Muay Thai gyms in Aurora Colorado?
I live in Aurora, CO. Are there any muay thai gyms around here? Been thinking about getting into it and I was wondering if there were any. If not, are there any near Denver, Colorado? I don%26#039;t live that far away from Denver, but then I would be forced to reduce the times i actually can practice.|||Yes there are a few. Colorado BJJ and High Altitude Martial arts are the two that stand in my mind . Ufc vet Nate Marquardt is the owner of High Altitiude.
Good Luck
Good Luck
Could a normal guy beat a amateur muay thai fighter?
could a normal guy who is fit and healthy beat a muay thai fighter who is a amateur. How important is strength in a fight?|||Yes he could, there%26#039;s always a chance, the chance increases/decreases depending on your combat experience and training.
Strength is one of the most important factors in a fight, others are: speed, experience, technique, conditioning.|||It%26#039;s doubtful but anything can happen in a fight. Strength plays some role but not always. To give you a perspective I was working with a heavy weight for the first time yesterday who has a black belt from another school and style. While I am sure that he is stronger than me physically his punches and jab were not while his kicks were stronger than mine. The reason is that he lacks the technique and relies to much on his shoulder muscles which are slow twitch type muscles. His punches and jab lack that speed and coordinated effort and there is little in the way of footwork and his body behind them or momentum. In short they are just arm punches. That will change with a little work and practice so that his punches and jab will have more speed and power just like his kicks do now.
Strength is important in grappling and wrestling but it is not near as effective if the person does not have their balance. Also overly relying on it can fatigue your muscles quicker and burn them out and render your greater strength useless. So a better fighter will also rely on leverage when and where they can and there are some techniques that require balance, leverage, and speed rather than power to use effectively. While a fit, strong, athletic type person might be able to win over someone like what you mention they are at a big disadvantage in so many other ways and the experience factor in all this is a huge factor even if we are just talking about an amateur.|||Anyone has the opportunity to beat anyone of any skill. It%26#039;s just gets less likely for them to. To say that it is impossible for one not to beat another, would be to tell the future. Because we don%26#039;t know what could happen in a fight until it happens.
If you%26#039;re fit, you stand a chance fighting someone, but remember, he has gotten comfortable punching and kicking. The more he does that movement the more confident he is doing it against you.
If you%26#039;re untrained and get in a fight with someone who might be, and you are fearful of losing your life or ability, don%26#039;t try to play his game. Attack them hard fast and unrelenting. Be confident in your movements and know and want to hurt them. You won%26#039;t shame them so don%26#039;t try, you won%26#039;t look good so just go, and you will get hurt so accept it.|||1- does the %26quot;normal%26quot; guy have a large height and weight advantage like 100lbs or more?
2- does the %26quot;normal%26quot; guy have a weapon?
3- is the mt guy in anyway physically impaired, drunk, asleep or has his back turned?
if the answer to all of these is %26quot;no%26quot; then probably not.
then again- it is an %26quot;amateur%26quot; MT fighter, you didn%26#039;t say that he was any good he could be 0-5 for all we know and just keep entering amateur bouts because his school does.
odds are I would say no.|||99.9999% of the time a skilled Thai boxer will beat a guy who doesn%26#039;t train to fight, who is just healthy and strong. The non-fighter would do well to pick up a beer bottle or a chair to defend himself and even that might not work. Muay Thai is nothing to be taken lightly, and it%26#039;s nothing to mess with. I can say the same thing about MMA.
Muay Thai is serious business. Those guys don%26#039;t mess around. They punish their opponents. If you can%26#039;t fight, you better run from a Thai boxer.|||certainly! everyone who becomes a great fighter was normal at a time! start classes and see how it goes
hell i am uncoordinated! i have no natural talen!, and have asthma and im winning tons of sparring tournaments! its because i work as hard as i can! its not about being normal, its about working hard and using what you have|||Anything is possible. I have seen seasoned black belts get caught off guard by new students that just had a different idea of how/when to move.
Strength only matters if the individual wielding it, knows how to do so.|||NO unless your a wrestler. because the only way to win that one is to take the MT guy out of his element. but watch out for knees or elbows going in for a double or single leg take down|||I%26#039;d say knowing how to fight is 1. Being quick is 2. How hard a punch you can take is 3 and strenth is 4 if i want to be nice to strength.
Youd get ur ### KICKED if he dose not suck|||In a street fight, anything is possible.
In the ring?
Not a chance.|||i am sure they would love to beat the hell out of a live punching bag
Strength is one of the most important factors in a fight, others are: speed, experience, technique, conditioning.|||It%26#039;s doubtful but anything can happen in a fight. Strength plays some role but not always. To give you a perspective I was working with a heavy weight for the first time yesterday who has a black belt from another school and style. While I am sure that he is stronger than me physically his punches and jab were not while his kicks were stronger than mine. The reason is that he lacks the technique and relies to much on his shoulder muscles which are slow twitch type muscles. His punches and jab lack that speed and coordinated effort and there is little in the way of footwork and his body behind them or momentum. In short they are just arm punches. That will change with a little work and practice so that his punches and jab will have more speed and power just like his kicks do now.
Strength is important in grappling and wrestling but it is not near as effective if the person does not have their balance. Also overly relying on it can fatigue your muscles quicker and burn them out and render your greater strength useless. So a better fighter will also rely on leverage when and where they can and there are some techniques that require balance, leverage, and speed rather than power to use effectively. While a fit, strong, athletic type person might be able to win over someone like what you mention they are at a big disadvantage in so many other ways and the experience factor in all this is a huge factor even if we are just talking about an amateur.|||Anyone has the opportunity to beat anyone of any skill. It%26#039;s just gets less likely for them to. To say that it is impossible for one not to beat another, would be to tell the future. Because we don%26#039;t know what could happen in a fight until it happens.
If you%26#039;re fit, you stand a chance fighting someone, but remember, he has gotten comfortable punching and kicking. The more he does that movement the more confident he is doing it against you.
If you%26#039;re untrained and get in a fight with someone who might be, and you are fearful of losing your life or ability, don%26#039;t try to play his game. Attack them hard fast and unrelenting. Be confident in your movements and know and want to hurt them. You won%26#039;t shame them so don%26#039;t try, you won%26#039;t look good so just go, and you will get hurt so accept it.|||1- does the %26quot;normal%26quot; guy have a large height and weight advantage like 100lbs or more?
2- does the %26quot;normal%26quot; guy have a weapon?
3- is the mt guy in anyway physically impaired, drunk, asleep or has his back turned?
if the answer to all of these is %26quot;no%26quot; then probably not.
then again- it is an %26quot;amateur%26quot; MT fighter, you didn%26#039;t say that he was any good he could be 0-5 for all we know and just keep entering amateur bouts because his school does.
odds are I would say no.|||99.9999% of the time a skilled Thai boxer will beat a guy who doesn%26#039;t train to fight, who is just healthy and strong. The non-fighter would do well to pick up a beer bottle or a chair to defend himself and even that might not work. Muay Thai is nothing to be taken lightly, and it%26#039;s nothing to mess with. I can say the same thing about MMA.
Muay Thai is serious business. Those guys don%26#039;t mess around. They punish their opponents. If you can%26#039;t fight, you better run from a Thai boxer.|||certainly! everyone who becomes a great fighter was normal at a time! start classes and see how it goes
hell i am uncoordinated! i have no natural talen!, and have asthma and im winning tons of sparring tournaments! its because i work as hard as i can! its not about being normal, its about working hard and using what you have|||Anything is possible. I have seen seasoned black belts get caught off guard by new students that just had a different idea of how/when to move.
Strength only matters if the individual wielding it, knows how to do so.|||NO unless your a wrestler. because the only way to win that one is to take the MT guy out of his element. but watch out for knees or elbows going in for a double or single leg take down|||I%26#039;d say knowing how to fight is 1. Being quick is 2. How hard a punch you can take is 3 and strenth is 4 if i want to be nice to strength.
Youd get ur ### KICKED if he dose not suck|||In a street fight, anything is possible.
In the ring?
Not a chance.|||i am sure they would love to beat the hell out of a live punching bag
What are the determining factors behind choosing the size of boxing gloves for Muay Thai? Read Details?
What are the determining factors behind choosing the size of boxing gloves for Muay Thai? Would these factors be the same as choosing a pair of gloves for western boxing?
I am 65kg and 5%26#039;6......should I buy 10oz, 12oz, 14oz etc
I asked my trainers, he suggested 10oz, I asked if 12oz would be better, he kind of agreed, but half-heartedly.|||if you are doing any sparring then 16oz, at your weight you can probably go with some 14oz but theres almost no way anyone is gonna let you spar them with 10oz gloves.
the purpose of sparring isnt to really hurt the other person so 16oz gloves offer enough protection to prevent unnecessary injuries but still enough to make them feel your punches. also training with heavier gloves conditions you to have more strength to hold up competition gloves which range from 8-12oz for longer periods of time
now some people wear lighter gloves such as 12-14oz for drills that require speed like focus mitts etc....
some people have two pairs of gloves some for sparring and some for drills i just have one pair of 16oz gloves because im poor lol and you can get away with using 16oz gloves on focus mitts but you cant get away with using 10oz gloves on some1 face(well for sparring purposes)|||10 oz are too light for practing. Training gloves should be 16oz. , Less then that you are damaging your hands
I am 65kg and 5%26#039;6......should I buy 10oz, 12oz, 14oz etc
I asked my trainers, he suggested 10oz, I asked if 12oz would be better, he kind of agreed, but half-heartedly.|||if you are doing any sparring then 16oz, at your weight you can probably go with some 14oz but theres almost no way anyone is gonna let you spar them with 10oz gloves.
the purpose of sparring isnt to really hurt the other person so 16oz gloves offer enough protection to prevent unnecessary injuries but still enough to make them feel your punches. also training with heavier gloves conditions you to have more strength to hold up competition gloves which range from 8-12oz for longer periods of time
now some people wear lighter gloves such as 12-14oz for drills that require speed like focus mitts etc....
some people have two pairs of gloves some for sparring and some for drills i just have one pair of 16oz gloves because im poor lol and you can get away with using 16oz gloves on focus mitts but you cant get away with using 10oz gloves on some1 face(well for sparring purposes)|||10 oz are too light for practing. Training gloves should be 16oz. , Less then that you are damaging your hands
Where can i learn muay thai in south australia?
i have heard a few people talk about the flinders muay thai club does anyone know if they would train a newbie to the sport?|||Finding a school can be the tricky part as I mentioned in my last answer to your Muay Thai question.
If you can find Ben Dwire in Adelaide I trained with him back in 2000, He was good then and should only be better now. If you can%26#039;t find an established school then I recommend checking the back-packer hostels. There are some illegal aliens in Australia from Thailand and if you gain their trust, you could find a teacher that way.
The only school I know of in Australia is just up from Cairns in the North. The school was called Craft Works and Joe Son was there at the same time. This would be quite a journey for you, but if you are interested the school was actually located in Port Douglass. Cairns is a 5 hour flight from Sydney but Port Douglass has no airport so you need to take a bus going to Mossman and the Tablelands.|||Sydney, Perth, Adelaide....|||Here, try this link:
http://www.usmta.com/Int-Australia-Page....
I%26#039;m not at all familiar with South Australia so I can%26#039;t tell you what schools are in your area, but there is no reason why a martial arts school would not accept a beginning student! If any of these schools work, give them a call and see if you can observe a class, then go from there. Good luck!
If you can find Ben Dwire in Adelaide I trained with him back in 2000, He was good then and should only be better now. If you can%26#039;t find an established school then I recommend checking the back-packer hostels. There are some illegal aliens in Australia from Thailand and if you gain their trust, you could find a teacher that way.
The only school I know of in Australia is just up from Cairns in the North. The school was called Craft Works and Joe Son was there at the same time. This would be quite a journey for you, but if you are interested the school was actually located in Port Douglass. Cairns is a 5 hour flight from Sydney but Port Douglass has no airport so you need to take a bus going to Mossman and the Tablelands.|||Sydney, Perth, Adelaide....|||Here, try this link:
http://www.usmta.com/Int-Australia-Page....
I%26#039;m not at all familiar with South Australia so I can%26#039;t tell you what schools are in your area, but there is no reason why a martial arts school would not accept a beginning student! If any of these schools work, give them a call and see if you can observe a class, then go from there. Good luck!
Do you have to wear gloves in Muay Thai?
Do you have to wear gloves in Muay Thai? Is it legal to only wear hand wraps?|||In the original Thai boxing, the fighters did not wear gloves. Now you would have to wear the standard gear (which includes gloves) if you wanted to fight competitively .|||Yes, you must wear gloves in Muay Thai if you are fighting competitively.|||What are the exact stardard equipment manditory for muay thai competitions?|||long ago in thailand thai boxers wrapped their hands with hemp ropes
i guess in some underground anything goes fight then you wouldnt have to wear gloves
but in the US the only way you are going to have a sanction match is with approved gloves, pretty much anytime you are punching to the head you have to wear gloves, thats why you%26#039;ll see full contact karate and pankration not wear gloves but then they cant strike to the head either.
the question is why would you not wanna wear gloves?|||In usa yes, some oversea%26#039;s country%26#039;s there are no athletic commission%26#039;s and anything goes...
i guess in some underground anything goes fight then you wouldnt have to wear gloves
but in the US the only way you are going to have a sanction match is with approved gloves, pretty much anytime you are punching to the head you have to wear gloves, thats why you%26#039;ll see full contact karate and pankration not wear gloves but then they cant strike to the head either.
the question is why would you not wanna wear gloves?|||In usa yes, some oversea%26#039;s country%26#039;s there are no athletic commission%26#039;s and anything goes...
If i cant take muay thai is kickboxing a good choice after muay thai?
i want to learn jjj too though but the only place that teaches muay thai aorund here is kind of exspensive so im thinking about kickboxing instead. what is kickboxing missing that muay thai has? knees and elbows?|||Take kickboxing or boxing if they are the cheaper option as you can learn what you lack from videos,dvd%26#039;s and torrent downloads once your experienced :)***|||kick boxing is alot difrent and i would tell yout to start with kickboxing and work ur way to muay thai. Kickboxing will condition you and develop ur legs so u can later include the knees and elbows of muay thai.
Muay thai is difrent and developed alot for speed and power. while in kickboxing you can sometimes get stuck with one or the other.|||Muay thai is a type of kickboxing like Shotokan is a type of Karate. Don%26#039;t listen to idiots that don%26#039;t know what they%26#039;re talking about.|||there%26#039;s not dat big of a difference n experience in muay thai is gr8 4 juz bout any martial art especially kickboxin|||Yes. :)
Muay thai is difrent and developed alot for speed and power. while in kickboxing you can sometimes get stuck with one or the other.|||Muay thai is a type of kickboxing like Shotokan is a type of Karate. Don%26#039;t listen to idiots that don%26#039;t know what they%26#039;re talking about.|||there%26#039;s not dat big of a difference n experience in muay thai is gr8 4 juz bout any martial art especially kickboxin|||Yes. :)
Difference between regular kick boxing and muay thai kickboxing?
What is the difference between regular kick boxing and muay thai kickboxing?|||Kick Boxing is not an actual Martial Discipline, it describes a set of rules to fight under. It is actually a blend of Karate and other disciplines. Muay Thai or thai boxing is a matrial discipline indigenous of Thailand and it is known %26quot;The Science of Eight Limbs%26quot;, as the hands (2), shins (2), elbows (2), and knees(2) are all used extensively in this art. Muay Thai is similar to say Kung Fu. While Kick Boxing can be a mix of Karate and Muay Thai, you can%26#039;t fight Muay Thai with say Kung Fu they are two different diciplines.
Now some people call a specific mix of Karate, and Muay Thai kickboxing as if it were a discipline on its own. But to me is like calling MMA a discipline and it is not it is a mix as the name suggests.
I recomend Akido if you only want to defend yourself and not hurt people, but if you want to hurt people Muay Thai is vicious; Jujutsu if you want to have the ability to pick between both options LOL|||In kickboxing you have what they call American rules and also European rules. The difference is that there are no leg kicks or knees in American rules kick boxing and in European rules kick boxing there are knees to the body and leg kicks.
In Muay Thai you have leg kicks as well as knees allowed in the United States and in International rules you also have the use of elbows allowed. The United States does not allow International rules Muay Thai. Because of the use of knees and elbows it changes the strategy and way fighters fight and in Muay Thai it is very hard to clinch and rest or smother your opponent because knees are allowed and if outside the US, so are elbows. Also the leg kicks can take their toll on a fighter and restrict his ability to move, react, and punch and make him want to drop his arms some to protect his bruised, damaged legs and for his opponent to more easily score a knockout then.|||American Kickboxing, or full contact karate, has diffrent rules. Some rules allow leg kicks, but above the knee. Some allow knee strikes, some dont. I%26#039;ve never seen any that allow elbows. Muay Thai allows almost all points of the body to be used for striking. The real hardcore matches allow sweeps and sometimes headbutts.
Now some people call a specific mix of Karate, and Muay Thai kickboxing as if it were a discipline on its own. But to me is like calling MMA a discipline and it is not it is a mix as the name suggests.
I recomend Akido if you only want to defend yourself and not hurt people, but if you want to hurt people Muay Thai is vicious; Jujutsu if you want to have the ability to pick between both options LOL|||In kickboxing you have what they call American rules and also European rules. The difference is that there are no leg kicks or knees in American rules kick boxing and in European rules kick boxing there are knees to the body and leg kicks.
In Muay Thai you have leg kicks as well as knees allowed in the United States and in International rules you also have the use of elbows allowed. The United States does not allow International rules Muay Thai. Because of the use of knees and elbows it changes the strategy and way fighters fight and in Muay Thai it is very hard to clinch and rest or smother your opponent because knees are allowed and if outside the US, so are elbows. Also the leg kicks can take their toll on a fighter and restrict his ability to move, react, and punch and make him want to drop his arms some to protect his bruised, damaged legs and for his opponent to more easily score a knockout then.|||American Kickboxing, or full contact karate, has diffrent rules. Some rules allow leg kicks, but above the knee. Some allow knee strikes, some dont. I%26#039;ve never seen any that allow elbows. Muay Thai allows almost all points of the body to be used for striking. The real hardcore matches allow sweeps and sometimes headbutts.
If i take Creatine, then 2 hours later i go yo Muay thai class will the creatines effects still work?
Lets say i do a hardcore workout then drink sum creatine after. Two hours later i go to muay thai class which involves 30 minutes of hardcore cardio /muscle work, then the rest is partner pad work. Will the creatines effects still take effect on my muscles or what|||Yes, it will help you recover. Creatine will make you hold more water though so if you don%26#039;t want excess water weight and feeling blog down it%26#039;s from the creatine. Creatine is probably better used after your muay tai class. Creatine last 1.5 hours to an hour in the blood stream and is then stored in muscles or excreted out.
Creatine is best taken once in the morning and once after working out for 1-2 weeks the loading phase. Then after workouts for a 3 months. (that%26#039;s what mine says) Yours may be different. Post workout you get the best absorption to your muscles.
Note: best is to take creatine before workout and after. Also, it depends on what creatine you buy. Ex: powder, capsules, liquid. Read the label. Manufactures add extra stuff that might benefit in pre or post workouts.
Your body will get use to the effects so you will have to stop completely for a whole month.
The best creatine mix would be NOexplode. It has Nitric Oxide helps you pump harder, some caffeine, and creatine. Designed mainly for pre-workout.
Your body will get use to the effects so you will have to stop completely for a whole month.
The best creatine mix would be NOexplode. It has Nitric Oxide helps you pump harder, some caffeine, and creatine.|||Creatine does work, the only problem after you stop taking it the effects begin to fade away. You have to cycle creatine properly when you want to stop taking it. To answer your question if you have gotten a really good muscle pumping work out, after your workout about 30 minutes your muscles start the resting phase and begins to repair. Creatine should be taken before your hard core work out. So in your case if you take the creatine 30 mintues before your muay thai class then you will get the creatine effects. After your workout think about a protien shake drink it with in 30 minutes after you workout. Then 30 minutes before your muay thai workout take your creatine. Every one is different. So do a test trial, but try what I suggested first.|||I assume you are using Creatine for a recovery drink. Chocolate milk, ounce for ounce has the same benefit and costs a fraction of what Creatine costs. From personal experience, after each workout I will usually eat (CLIF bar) and rehydrate (gatorade, water). I will drink the milk if there is a 2 hour break or longer between each workout.. I often workout twice a day -- (I do not eat before a swim) swim, run, and/or bike. The only supplement I take is a one-a-day multivitamin.
** My favorite recovery drink is chocolate milk and I%26#039;ve found little difference in the recovery benefit between that and ISOPURE or creatine but it certainly helps on the wallet and tastes a heck of a lot better. :-D|||Creatine is a waste of money, it doesn%26#039;t work.
Creatine is best taken once in the morning and once after working out for 1-2 weeks the loading phase. Then after workouts for a 3 months. (that%26#039;s what mine says) Yours may be different. Post workout you get the best absorption to your muscles.
Note: best is to take creatine before workout and after. Also, it depends on what creatine you buy. Ex: powder, capsules, liquid. Read the label. Manufactures add extra stuff that might benefit in pre or post workouts.
Your body will get use to the effects so you will have to stop completely for a whole month.
The best creatine mix would be NOexplode. It has Nitric Oxide helps you pump harder, some caffeine, and creatine. Designed mainly for pre-workout.
Your body will get use to the effects so you will have to stop completely for a whole month.
The best creatine mix would be NOexplode. It has Nitric Oxide helps you pump harder, some caffeine, and creatine.|||Creatine does work, the only problem after you stop taking it the effects begin to fade away. You have to cycle creatine properly when you want to stop taking it. To answer your question if you have gotten a really good muscle pumping work out, after your workout about 30 minutes your muscles start the resting phase and begins to repair. Creatine should be taken before your hard core work out. So in your case if you take the creatine 30 mintues before your muay thai class then you will get the creatine effects. After your workout think about a protien shake drink it with in 30 minutes after you workout. Then 30 minutes before your muay thai workout take your creatine. Every one is different. So do a test trial, but try what I suggested first.|||I assume you are using Creatine for a recovery drink. Chocolate milk, ounce for ounce has the same benefit and costs a fraction of what Creatine costs. From personal experience, after each workout I will usually eat (CLIF bar) and rehydrate (gatorade, water). I will drink the milk if there is a 2 hour break or longer between each workout.. I often workout twice a day -- (I do not eat before a swim) swim, run, and/or bike. The only supplement I take is a one-a-day multivitamin.
** My favorite recovery drink is chocolate milk and I%26#039;ve found little difference in the recovery benefit between that and ISOPURE or creatine but it certainly helps on the wallet and tastes a heck of a lot better. :-D|||Creatine is a waste of money, it doesn%26#039;t work.
How come elbows aren't usually used in Muay Thai?
Before you flame me...
I know they are used, and in my Muay Thai, we are taught to use elbows.
But it seems in major bouts, they aren%26#039;t very common.
Is such a deadly strike simply usually unwarranted?|||It depends on where the major bout is and what the rules are. Elbows aren%26#039;t commonly used or allowed in most Western Muay Thai rules simply because of the fact that it%26#039;s too damaging of a weapon.
In Thailand however, yes it is allowed...everything is allowed. The elbow is a very dangerous and nasty short-range weapon and you need to be within a foot of your opponent in the clinch range in order to slash with it.
Elbows can also be used defensively on the outside to block and hurt an opponent%26#039;s punches and kicks. Anything it hits will cut and bruise and break.
Thai fighters usually have an unspoken understanding that if you don%26#039;t use it, I won%26#039;t either. Of course, this is never further from the truth based on all the countless matches you see in Thailand where elbows and ultra-bloody fights are not uncommon. Elbow knockouts in Thailand also score well with judges and fighters can receive a higher bonus in the end.|||Haha... no, it%26#039;s not a %26quot;deadly strike%26quot;.
First, the opportunity to use them doesn%26#039;t present itself too often. While in the clinch, the arms are used mostly to control the opponent. You%26#039;ll occasionally see an elbow strike as they push away, or sometimes getting into the clinch, but once they%26#039;re in there, the arms are already up by the head and can easily defend most elbow strikes.
I remember hearing some talk when I was in Thailand that most fighters won%26#039;t use elbow strikes in the early rounds because, traditionally, the first few rounds are a feeling out process and, because an elbow strike so easily opens up a cut, they%26#039;re not used because they can end the fight prematurely.
You see them used more often in the clinch in MMA. Check out Kalib Starnes vs. Alan Blecher and Tim Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera, for starters.|||You don%26#039;t see elbows used in many of the fights in the US because they don%26#039;t allow it. Even in MMA many states while allowing some things have disallowed the use of elbows for the amateur fighters as well as knees above the chest to the face and head. This along with elbows, kicking an opponent while down are all things the state athletic commissions have said they won%26#039;t allow or accept. Most of the Maui Thai in is country is fought under American rules. That includes leg kicks only; some are fought under European rules which include knees along with leg kicks. None are fought under what they call traditional Maui Thai rules that include leg kicks, knees, and elbows.|||Elbows are harder to use than punches, knees and kicks because you have to first get into range. That%26#039;s tough to do against an equally skilled opponent. Most of the time elbows are used going into or coming out of a clinch. Once in the clinch, your hands and elbows are busy holding the opponent so you use your knees, because they%26#039;re free.
But I still love elbows. Great self-defense on the street against an unaware opponent. If a novice is throwing haymakers, you go straight inside with punches, move in close and transition to elbows, move back out and transition to punches and then if he%26#039;s still standing move out of punching range and finish with kicks. It%26#039;s all about range.
The elbow is not a %26quot;deadly%26quot; power strike. My instructor says it%26#039;s for cutting, not power. If you try to make it a power strike you are doing it wrong, will over extend and leave yourself open for attack. Done correctly, it%26#039;s used for close range, quick cutting work to put blood in the eyes.|||Quick answer, they%26#039;re a move used only at the right opportunity. You need to first close the distance before you throw one, otherwise a simple jab will stop you rather easily.
You can%26#039;t.. *shouldn%26#039;t*... throw an elbow from punching distance (at least not against anyone halfway good), you need to be in close quarters.|||its very hard to connect an elbow and can leave you wide open, and not many fighters care all too much about the other fighters well being, i mean, there in the ring to hurt each other, only after do they care about how the other fighter is|||Elbows in a thai boxing fight (show), is only allowed if under full muay thai rules. There is class a, class b, class c|||don%26#039;t know. maybe cuz most prefer to use their knees when they are close. i have seen some elbow strikes used.
I know they are used, and in my Muay Thai, we are taught to use elbows.
But it seems in major bouts, they aren%26#039;t very common.
Is such a deadly strike simply usually unwarranted?|||It depends on where the major bout is and what the rules are. Elbows aren%26#039;t commonly used or allowed in most Western Muay Thai rules simply because of the fact that it%26#039;s too damaging of a weapon.
In Thailand however, yes it is allowed...everything is allowed. The elbow is a very dangerous and nasty short-range weapon and you need to be within a foot of your opponent in the clinch range in order to slash with it.
Elbows can also be used defensively on the outside to block and hurt an opponent%26#039;s punches and kicks. Anything it hits will cut and bruise and break.
Thai fighters usually have an unspoken understanding that if you don%26#039;t use it, I won%26#039;t either. Of course, this is never further from the truth based on all the countless matches you see in Thailand where elbows and ultra-bloody fights are not uncommon. Elbow knockouts in Thailand also score well with judges and fighters can receive a higher bonus in the end.|||Haha... no, it%26#039;s not a %26quot;deadly strike%26quot;.
First, the opportunity to use them doesn%26#039;t present itself too often. While in the clinch, the arms are used mostly to control the opponent. You%26#039;ll occasionally see an elbow strike as they push away, or sometimes getting into the clinch, but once they%26#039;re in there, the arms are already up by the head and can easily defend most elbow strikes.
I remember hearing some talk when I was in Thailand that most fighters won%26#039;t use elbow strikes in the early rounds because, traditionally, the first few rounds are a feeling out process and, because an elbow strike so easily opens up a cut, they%26#039;re not used because they can end the fight prematurely.
You see them used more often in the clinch in MMA. Check out Kalib Starnes vs. Alan Blecher and Tim Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera, for starters.|||You don%26#039;t see elbows used in many of the fights in the US because they don%26#039;t allow it. Even in MMA many states while allowing some things have disallowed the use of elbows for the amateur fighters as well as knees above the chest to the face and head. This along with elbows, kicking an opponent while down are all things the state athletic commissions have said they won%26#039;t allow or accept. Most of the Maui Thai in is country is fought under American rules. That includes leg kicks only; some are fought under European rules which include knees along with leg kicks. None are fought under what they call traditional Maui Thai rules that include leg kicks, knees, and elbows.|||Elbows are harder to use than punches, knees and kicks because you have to first get into range. That%26#039;s tough to do against an equally skilled opponent. Most of the time elbows are used going into or coming out of a clinch. Once in the clinch, your hands and elbows are busy holding the opponent so you use your knees, because they%26#039;re free.
But I still love elbows. Great self-defense on the street against an unaware opponent. If a novice is throwing haymakers, you go straight inside with punches, move in close and transition to elbows, move back out and transition to punches and then if he%26#039;s still standing move out of punching range and finish with kicks. It%26#039;s all about range.
The elbow is not a %26quot;deadly%26quot; power strike. My instructor says it%26#039;s for cutting, not power. If you try to make it a power strike you are doing it wrong, will over extend and leave yourself open for attack. Done correctly, it%26#039;s used for close range, quick cutting work to put blood in the eyes.|||Quick answer, they%26#039;re a move used only at the right opportunity. You need to first close the distance before you throw one, otherwise a simple jab will stop you rather easily.
You can%26#039;t.. *shouldn%26#039;t*... throw an elbow from punching distance (at least not against anyone halfway good), you need to be in close quarters.|||its very hard to connect an elbow and can leave you wide open, and not many fighters care all too much about the other fighters well being, i mean, there in the ring to hurt each other, only after do they care about how the other fighter is|||Elbows in a thai boxing fight (show), is only allowed if under full muay thai rules. There is class a, class b, class c|||don%26#039;t know. maybe cuz most prefer to use their knees when they are close. i have seen some elbow strikes used.
Where to buy Fairtex muay thai gloves in Thailand?
You%26#039;d think it would be easy to find a place selling Fairtex muay thai gear in Thailand since that%26#039;s where its made but so far I haven%26#039;t been able to locate a single store. I%26#039;ll be vacationing there soon and I%26#039;d like to know if anyone can tell me where in Bangkok or Pattaya I%26#039;d be able to buy tons of muay thai gear, which is extremely expensive here in the states.|||This is a list of stockist for Fairtex gear:
http://www.fairtex.com/retailers.php
There are 2 muay thai school in Thailand, one in Bangkok and one in Pattaya. Both will sell this. Look at this link for further info on the 2 schools address:
http://www.muaythaifairtex.com/|||Peanutz answered you there...
Well, you won%26#039;t find Fairtex gloves in stores because those are specially branded gloves produced by Twins Special Muay Thai Boxing Equip. Co. (http://www.twinsspecial.org/ ) and its not for the mainstream market in Thailand (like Thai Smai, FBT, etc.).
So, my advise would be... go check it out from the nearest Fairtex gym in Bangkok/Pattaya and they%26#039;ll definitely have them up for sale. Beware of imitation from tourist areas like Khao Sarn Rd. and such...
http://www.fairtex.com/retailers.php
There are 2 muay thai school in Thailand, one in Bangkok and one in Pattaya. Both will sell this. Look at this link for further info on the 2 schools address:
http://www.muaythaifairtex.com/|||Peanutz answered you there...
Well, you won%26#039;t find Fairtex gloves in stores because those are specially branded gloves produced by Twins Special Muay Thai Boxing Equip. Co. (http://www.twinsspecial.org/ ) and its not for the mainstream market in Thailand (like Thai Smai, FBT, etc.).
So, my advise would be... go check it out from the nearest Fairtex gym in Bangkok/Pattaya and they%26#039;ll definitely have them up for sale. Beware of imitation from tourist areas like Khao Sarn Rd. and such...
What Muay-Thai school is good for an American beginner in Thailand?
I want to either study Muay-Thai and keep learning BJJ when I arrive in Thailand, or cross over to Myanmar to study Thaing. Any advice?|||if you would like to study there are MUAY camps in some part especailly in bangkok|||hi,i have a muay thai school which is call Ipi gym.The history of Ipi was lumpini champion.This school have very good basic start and also good for beginner to pick up muay thai.if you are interested e-mail me at johnathanquek@yahoo.com.sg Report Abuse
Do you have to lift lots of weights in order to take up boxing or muay thai?
Im not really muscular but I want to start either muay thai or boxing but I hardly lift weights. Can I still go for it?|||Not a lot....but you do have to be in shape....
~You have to have stamina, so running helps,
~you should have strong legs so in that case doing squats and running helps,
~it is good to have torso strength in pretty much any martial art, so doing sit ups, lifting weights, and doing push ups help.
I am not very muscular but I have a killer right hook, and right uppercut, and my jabs come pretty quick. So technique helps a lot as well.... but do the above things or find alternatives for those things that you could do that would have the same effect... don%26#039;t be afraid to get creative and try to make up your own exercise... I do that on accident all the time..lol
strength isn%26#039;t everything but does matter... if not strength then speed... the momentum will bring power behind your strikes!
^_^|||why not
usually in competition its by weight class
I mean its good to stay in shape
you can be strong and not big
do body stuff
push up, pull ups and stuff
good to be able to do your own weight
I do muay thai and just started doing mma
im 138 and I can bench close to 185 no problem
i do push ups and wide pull ups alot |||Absolutely. %26quot;Smokin%26#039;%26quot; Joe Frazier, former boxing HW champion who holds a win over Muhammad Ali, never lifted weights. I think a certain amount of lifting would be to your benefit, but it%26#039;s not a prerequisite.|||I take kicknoxing and barely lift wieghts, but really u should probably do uper body improve your striking power, but when u train u will be training cardio and strangth as well so its really up to how sore you are
~You have to have stamina, so running helps,
~you should have strong legs so in that case doing squats and running helps,
~it is good to have torso strength in pretty much any martial art, so doing sit ups, lifting weights, and doing push ups help.
I am not very muscular but I have a killer right hook, and right uppercut, and my jabs come pretty quick. So technique helps a lot as well.... but do the above things or find alternatives for those things that you could do that would have the same effect... don%26#039;t be afraid to get creative and try to make up your own exercise... I do that on accident all the time..lol
strength isn%26#039;t everything but does matter... if not strength then speed... the momentum will bring power behind your strikes!
^_^|||why not
usually in competition its by weight class
I mean its good to stay in shape
you can be strong and not big
do body stuff
push up, pull ups and stuff
good to be able to do your own weight
I do muay thai and just started doing mma
im 138 and I can bench close to 185 no problem
i do push ups and wide pull ups alot |||Absolutely. %26quot;Smokin%26#039;%26quot; Joe Frazier, former boxing HW champion who holds a win over Muhammad Ali, never lifted weights. I think a certain amount of lifting would be to your benefit, but it%26#039;s not a prerequisite.|||I take kicknoxing and barely lift wieghts, but really u should probably do uper body improve your striking power, but when u train u will be training cardio and strangth as well so its really up to how sore you are
Are there any stores that sell Muay Thai gear in Bangkok?
A friend of mine is in Bangkok and I%26#039;ve asked him to buy a few Muay Thai gear. All I could find are online stores. I wouldn%26#039;t want my friend to go out of his way and outside Bangkok just to find the stuff. Are there any stores in or near the Sukhumvit area that sell Muay Thai gear?|||Look at MBK, FBT, or even go to Muay Thai centre there should be a shop there|||I%26#039;ve seen several tourist-oriented souvenier shops on Sukhumvit that sell the huge brightly colored shorts, gloves, and headgear. Infact- I do believe that some of the stalls on the sidewalk sell that kind of stuff. Another good bet would be the Chatuchak weekend market. don%26#039;t forget to haggle though...|||You can pretty buy them anywhere, MBK, JJ Market and Suan Lum Night market are you best bet. I%26#039;ve seen a couple vendors between Nana and Asoke BTS stations that sell them.|||Acutally you can get it easily at the street vendor but bargain needed. places like patpong , suan lum night bazaar.|||Your friend may try the street side stalls in Sukhumvit. Or else, I%26#039;m pretty sure he can find it at Suan Lum Night Bazaar as I%26#039;ve seen people selling the Muay Thai attire when I was there.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Muay Thai weaknesses as a striking martial art?
PUTTING THE LACK OF GROUND GAME %26amp; SUBMISSIONS ASIDE, as a pure striking martial art, does Muay Thai have any weaknesses? Are there any weak techniques in its arsenal? Is there another striking martial art that could match or possibly be better than Muay Thai? It%26#039;s obvious that most MMA practitioners favor MT over other striking disciplines, why so?|||Frank the Tank has this one nailed.
The answer is simple.
Muay Thai%26#039;s weakness is it lacks good hands. The punches and punch defenses in Muay Thai are lacking. Due to it having to defend a wider array of strikes, it usually lacks in punching, as elbows, clinches, and knees are usually used in punching range, everything else is usually done at kicking range. So by large and large, less pure punching defense and less pure punching.
They don%26#039;t necessarily have any weak techniques, due to the fact that it is tested and formed in hard competetion. They focus on low kicks, teeps, and the like, which are all pretty useful in a striking aspect. Some of the kicks don%26#039;t lend themselves well to a MMA or full range combat since they set you up for grappling, but generally they aren%26#039;t weak.
Plenty of other Arts can match Muay Thai, especially those that train to that extent, and fight regularly. San Shou, Kickboxers, Savate practioners, boxers, some full contact karate. It all depends. A lot can match it.
MMA Practioners use it because it is successful at what it does. It gives good long range, and close range strikes. Keep in mind they don%26#039;t use it OVER other striking disciplines, as most MMA fighters also box, as well as practice Muay Thai or kickboxing. They use it ALONG with other striking arts.
I disagree with Katana on these things, simply because MMA practioners use what is effective. Not because it is easier or quicker to learn. You become effective at it quicker, because it is heavily based in sparring and alive training. It%26#039;s practical effectiveness is self evident.
A Thai Fighter has knocked people out, not stood in a stance, kiai%26#039;ed punching the air, and mentioning that this blow would knock someone out. They have actually done it.
It is effective because it has been proven to be effective, not theorized.
There are plenty of other people who use a variety of striking arts. Lyoto Machida still uses a vast array of Karate techniques (keep in mind he also trains in Muay Thai), plenty of people use just boxing or plain kickboxing.
Muay Thai is effective and effective because aside from small technique tweaks it is heavily sparred a primary means of training. It%26#039;s kicks, elbows, knees, and clinch work, all are very good to have in MMA, you combine boxing, and some stand up grappling such as Judo and wrestling, and you have a pretty complete uptop game.
I would just say that Muay Thai is rarely the ONLY striking that a MMA fighter learns. It is usually part of a combination of disciplines, including boxing, karate, kickboxing, Tae Kwon Do and Savate style kicks, Jeet Kune Do concepts, etc.
MMA fighters tend to favor a boxing and Muay Thai combination. Because it gives them good punching, good defense, good footwork and angle work, along with elbows, knees, clinch work, and low risk outside kicks, and kicking in general, as well as defense to those moves.
Hope that makes some sense, it isn%26#039;t that Muay Thai isn%26#039;t without it%26#039;s weaknesses, it is just that it fills a lot of holes at once, and when used in conjunction with boxing, equals a pretty solid striking game.|||it appears some ppl dont understand what you are asking after all you do mention lack of ground game and submissions.The main weakness of muay thai is its lack of defensive techniques,instead they rely on the fact that there trained to take and give punishment.boxing and some forms of karate can match the punches in muay thai for power but are better because they also use defensive techniques rather than relying on just pure %26quot;punch through%26quot; power.and the kicks(not in boxing)are the same.adding other styles to MT so as to do mma or ufc adds the defensive techniques(and other techniques obviously)that MT lacks.
the reason mma and ufc practioners favor mt is because it doesn%26#039;t take long to attain a reasonable level of skill,but if you put one of them in a ring with someone who is a MT fighter under MT rules they would get there asss handed to them on a plate.
All martial arts have weak points and strong points.|||Muay Thai is an excellent striking art, but I think the main reason it is one of the most prevelant in the UFC is because it does not take as long to become proficiant at as many traditional striking arts. If somebody wants to compete in MMA they are going to want the fastest way to get up to speed possible.
If you watch a good traditional Okinawin karate person when they fight it will look a lot like a Muay Thai fighter, with the exception of standing grappling thrown in. I think Muay Thai%26#039;s main drawback is that there are many legitimate targets in self defense that they do not train to strike, and that they do not train to defend. Yes it is hit or miss whether the groin shot will end a fight, a lot depends on the person, but it is not as hard to land a solid strike there as most of the preponents of MMA seem to think.
I think part of this is I never see any kicks in MMA cometition, or rarely, that strike with the ball of the foot. Yes a shin kick is hard to deliver to the groin, but a ball of foot kick fits much nicer from many angles.
So it%26#039;s main weakness in my opinion would be ruling out legitimate target area%26#039;s for self defense.|||As a sport fighting art, Muay Thai is one of the most effective striking arts primarily because they keep it simple and do ALOT of hard sparring.
The main weakness I see, aside from the lack of grappling, is that Muay Thai assumes you are wearing boxing gloves so they don%26#039;t train any open hand techniques that would be better suited for the street.
For example if you punch someone in the head with thick boxing gloves on, you might knock them out or atleast down without doing any damage to your hand. In the street without boxing gloves on, you might still knock them out or down, but likely will hurt your hand. Many open hand karate techniques like palm, chops, etc. would be safer for the street.|||From a self-defense standpoint it does not offer a multitude of open-handed striking techniques to the facial area and eyes. Such techniques can be effective when wrestling and grappling with your opponent to give you more of a chance especially if you are smaller and weaker. Everyone has poked themselves in the eye at one time or another and just imagine now if I was striking directly into your eye with my finger tips grouped around my thumb for strength and support. Such techniques are not allowed in the UFC for good reason but yet are taught in many forms of karate and most people can not take a shot like that directly into their eye and not be temporarily blinded and distracted by the pain for a short period of time. Still Muay Thai is a good martial art in that stresses the use of knees and elbows as well as low kicks which allows fighters to more easily keep their balance, retract their kicking leg and get it back on the ground so that they can more easily and quickly follow up and continue to press the attack. That along with using knees and elbows for close in standup fighting allows fighters to fight at various ranges and so that is one of the reasons why it is so favored.|||Muay Thai is a very well rounded striking art, but no art is without its weaknesses.
Strengths: MT fighters train to use extensive use of knees and elbows (which are among the two hardest hitting strikes). Elbows really open up cuts and are brutal. Kicks with the shin are extremely practical, and they hurt. The Muay Thai clinch is the bread and butter of the style, in my opinion.
You can become proficient in Muay Thai under a good instructor in about six months to a year.
Conditioning is also a plus. You have to be in shape to do Muay Thai.
Muay Thai does teach throws and sweeps to a degree.
Weaknesses: This style is very hard on the body.
The older you get, the harder it is to take a beating.
Muay Thai is a sport, a bloodsport, but it doesn%26#039;t really teach much for self defense such as defense against weapons, multiple opponents, etc.
With any kicking art, when you do a kick, you are off-balance. If you are attempting a kick, and you get hit by a power punch, you%26#039;re going down.
Boxers have the best hands, no question. But, MT has more tools to offer. Of course, A MT kickboxer who trains in boxing will be better prepared, but with the arsenal of kicks, knees, elbows and clinch work, I don%26#039;t think it%26#039;s as important.
You could argue that Kyokushin or Sanda are as effective as Muay Thai.
Muay Thai is a very balanced style with brutal offensive techinques and good clinch work that meshes well with MMA. That%26#039;s why MMA stylists train in it.|||Muay Thai has a great flow to it, and is has a great arsenal, limited by the practioner. Muay Thai is called the science of 8 limbs, because, all limbs are used in the fight, again, the limit is the strategy of the striker.
Like all fighting styles MT is really dependent on the practioner and the determination with which training is done, one can have great strikes, but in sport MT, you have to be able to last for rounds.
MT is what it is, the oucome of the fight depends on the fighters.|||I%26#039;d say people favour it because it has a certain number of basic, but efficient moves to learn that suit MMA, where as the old styles of traditional martial arts such as Kung Fu (like Snake or Crane )would be less so. A draw back would probably be a lack of counter attacks and generally just %26quot;taking the hit%26quot; rather than getting out of the way. The fitness regime in getting ready to become a Muai Thai fighter will in itself help you to become a better fighter, as some other martial arts focus less on physical prowess and more on technique|||A muay thai expert would most likely get alot of punishment from a good boxer, as far as punching goes.
The muay thai stand is designed to be able to counter kicks and punches, but since most muay thai fighters have their hands a bit further from their body in order to block kicks, they are vulnerable to uppercuts from a good puncher like boxers.
Muay thai is a very effective striking art, and when you cross-train in Westen boxing, it becomes more complete.|||It%26#039;s weaknesses are that its core relies on kicks/knees. In MMA 9 out of 10 opponents are going to have wrestling backgrounds and have you ever tried kneeing someone while on your back? Not very effective.
You want a striking set that is better than Muay Thai? Simple...boxing.
How many fights have you seen finished with a kick? Real fights mind you, not Jean Claude or Seagall mincing around crane kicking everyone in sight. I can think of only a handful.
Now how many fights have you seen stopped by fists? Just about a good 75 to 85% of MMA matches end from good old fashioned punching.
Sure it%26#039;s not an exotic martial art, but effective accurate and powerful punching is the stuff of champions. Anyone who says different obviously hasn%26#039;t heard of Anderson Silva or Chuck Liddell.|||everyone thinks Muay Thai is the ultimate yet I have lived in Asia for over 5 years. Muay Thai fighters get wrecked by China%26#039;s San SHou team The tournament was embarrassing, China domnated Thailand sorry to brake everyones heart over this|||all other striking arts have more weaknesses :)|||MUAY THAI STRENGTHS (in a nutshell):
Muay thai training is excellent physical conditioning.
Muay thai techniques are simple (simpler techniques are more effective under pressure)
Muay thai techniques are honed and refined through competion. You practice landing techniques against an agressive, non-cooperative opponent every time in training.
You can be a relatively experienced fighter after only 6 months of training.
MUAY THAI WEAKNESSES:
Less effective as a martial art if you%26#039;re not very strong or fast, but still more effective than a non-competition based martial art for said weak person.
Becomes less effective as you get older and slower.
If you%26#039;re injured, sick or travel and stop training for a year, it can be difficult to get your conditioning back to its original level, especially if you%26#039;re past 30-35 years old.
Muay thai contests do not require ground-fighting skills, but most other mma contests do. Most people I know who train muay thai or %26quot;nhb striking%26quot; combine it with grappling/brazillian ju-jutsu.
Are there any styles that could match muay thai?
Muay thai is simply how the human body moves in a given set of conditions.
The rules of the competition directly shape the most effective techniques under those rules.
The rules of MT competition cause the style to evolve the most efffective techniques allowable under muay thai rules.
The rules of Judo competition cause the style to evolve the most effective techniues allowable under Judo rules.
What is the biggest difference between Judo and Brazillian ju-jitsu? The rules of the contest.
Judo (not ju-jutsu) was transplanted to Brazil. The rules of scoring point in competition were changed, and as a result the techniques evolved, shaped by competition, to the ones proven most effective at scoring points, and winning, under the new rules of competition. The rules of Brazillian ju-jitsu more closely resemble a %26quot;no-rules%26quot; scenario than the rules of judo do. But an experienced judo competitor is still more effective in the street than a dojp trained %26quot;traditional%26quot; martial artist who has never experienced a real, non-cooperative %26quot;opponent%26quot;.
Back to Muay Thai; it%26#039;s not based on the ancient teachings of great warriors of ages past, it%26#039;s based on the living experience of punchers and kickers who test themselves realistically every time they train. It%26#039;s proven every year in competition which techniques are most effective under pressure, full-speed, full power, (under the rules of Muay Thai competition). Any style such as NHB or Kyoku-shin kai that follows similar rules is going to evolve similar, if not identical techniques.|||I am a practitioner of Muay Thai. There are essentially no weaknesses to ANY style, only the understanding by the practitioner.
The reason that MT is the preferred striking art form of MMA is because it is simple! It essentially has only 7 different techniques and this compared to the thousands of techniques of more traditional arts is self explanatory :easier to %26quot;perfect%26quot; 7 than 1000.
But a closer look at different striking arts sees that most styles are almost the same; it is the actual student/fighter that is different. I Thailand, most fighters fight to put food in their bellies, so its a case of %26quot;do or die%26quot;. The competition is alot harder because of this. Also most of the fighters are teenagers or young adults. You never really see an %26quot;old%26quot; Muay Thai fighter. That%26#039;s because they destroy themselves in combat to the point that they cannot practice ANY exercise ever again. That is not the point of Martial study. I believe we need to study MA to help us in life%26#039;s journey.
But this sheer display of total brutality in combat is only popular because of the world%26#039;s knowledge of it in MT. However, there are much worse/better styles that display this kind of striking/fighting. The Philippines styles of combat also display this kind of brutality, that is known to most. They used weapons as well in their combat besides strikes, so this is not viable to MMA sport fighting. Likewise, any technique that is regaurded as %26quot;lethal%26quot; is not allowed in MMA sport. And for good reason. So the most %26quot;effective%26quot; brutal striking style would have to MT because it is also a sportt style, unlike its embryo Martial Art; Muay Boran.
What is also interesting is that there has been an on-going war between Muay Thai and Kung Fu since its earliest days. And the facts state that Mauy Thai has actually fallen from grace against San Shou/Da (the combat side of Kung Fu). In the begining MT dominated over both KF and Kyukushi Karate (full contact Karate) because of its %26quot;unorthodox%26quot; use of knees and elbows in competition. While other styles had them in their arsenal, they never used them in competition, and definately not to the extent that MT has. But once everyone started to catch on to the idea of incorporarting them into their sporting aresenal, it evened out the playing fields a bit.
So right now its not about which style is better than the other but rather which rules of the game you like better and which techniques are better suited for those rules.
The only weakness that MT has is its lack of real life or proper self defense techniques. It has evolved almost completely for sport use and no matter how much modern day MMA guys argue the point, MMA is a SPORT and is designed for one-on-one confrontation. The same applies to MT.
To answer the question above it is essential to understand that no art/style has weak techniques, only practitioners who can be weak at certain techniques.
The answer is simple.
Muay Thai%26#039;s weakness is it lacks good hands. The punches and punch defenses in Muay Thai are lacking. Due to it having to defend a wider array of strikes, it usually lacks in punching, as elbows, clinches, and knees are usually used in punching range, everything else is usually done at kicking range. So by large and large, less pure punching defense and less pure punching.
They don%26#039;t necessarily have any weak techniques, due to the fact that it is tested and formed in hard competetion. They focus on low kicks, teeps, and the like, which are all pretty useful in a striking aspect. Some of the kicks don%26#039;t lend themselves well to a MMA or full range combat since they set you up for grappling, but generally they aren%26#039;t weak.
Plenty of other Arts can match Muay Thai, especially those that train to that extent, and fight regularly. San Shou, Kickboxers, Savate practioners, boxers, some full contact karate. It all depends. A lot can match it.
MMA Practioners use it because it is successful at what it does. It gives good long range, and close range strikes. Keep in mind they don%26#039;t use it OVER other striking disciplines, as most MMA fighters also box, as well as practice Muay Thai or kickboxing. They use it ALONG with other striking arts.
I disagree with Katana on these things, simply because MMA practioners use what is effective. Not because it is easier or quicker to learn. You become effective at it quicker, because it is heavily based in sparring and alive training. It%26#039;s practical effectiveness is self evident.
A Thai Fighter has knocked people out, not stood in a stance, kiai%26#039;ed punching the air, and mentioning that this blow would knock someone out. They have actually done it.
It is effective because it has been proven to be effective, not theorized.
There are plenty of other people who use a variety of striking arts. Lyoto Machida still uses a vast array of Karate techniques (keep in mind he also trains in Muay Thai), plenty of people use just boxing or plain kickboxing.
Muay Thai is effective and effective because aside from small technique tweaks it is heavily sparred a primary means of training. It%26#039;s kicks, elbows, knees, and clinch work, all are very good to have in MMA, you combine boxing, and some stand up grappling such as Judo and wrestling, and you have a pretty complete uptop game.
I would just say that Muay Thai is rarely the ONLY striking that a MMA fighter learns. It is usually part of a combination of disciplines, including boxing, karate, kickboxing, Tae Kwon Do and Savate style kicks, Jeet Kune Do concepts, etc.
MMA fighters tend to favor a boxing and Muay Thai combination. Because it gives them good punching, good defense, good footwork and angle work, along with elbows, knees, clinch work, and low risk outside kicks, and kicking in general, as well as defense to those moves.
Hope that makes some sense, it isn%26#039;t that Muay Thai isn%26#039;t without it%26#039;s weaknesses, it is just that it fills a lot of holes at once, and when used in conjunction with boxing, equals a pretty solid striking game.|||it appears some ppl dont understand what you are asking after all you do mention lack of ground game and submissions.The main weakness of muay thai is its lack of defensive techniques,instead they rely on the fact that there trained to take and give punishment.boxing and some forms of karate can match the punches in muay thai for power but are better because they also use defensive techniques rather than relying on just pure %26quot;punch through%26quot; power.and the kicks(not in boxing)are the same.adding other styles to MT so as to do mma or ufc adds the defensive techniques(and other techniques obviously)that MT lacks.
the reason mma and ufc practioners favor mt is because it doesn%26#039;t take long to attain a reasonable level of skill,but if you put one of them in a ring with someone who is a MT fighter under MT rules they would get there asss handed to them on a plate.
All martial arts have weak points and strong points.|||Muay Thai is an excellent striking art, but I think the main reason it is one of the most prevelant in the UFC is because it does not take as long to become proficiant at as many traditional striking arts. If somebody wants to compete in MMA they are going to want the fastest way to get up to speed possible.
If you watch a good traditional Okinawin karate person when they fight it will look a lot like a Muay Thai fighter, with the exception of standing grappling thrown in. I think Muay Thai%26#039;s main drawback is that there are many legitimate targets in self defense that they do not train to strike, and that they do not train to defend. Yes it is hit or miss whether the groin shot will end a fight, a lot depends on the person, but it is not as hard to land a solid strike there as most of the preponents of MMA seem to think.
I think part of this is I never see any kicks in MMA cometition, or rarely, that strike with the ball of the foot. Yes a shin kick is hard to deliver to the groin, but a ball of foot kick fits much nicer from many angles.
So it%26#039;s main weakness in my opinion would be ruling out legitimate target area%26#039;s for self defense.|||As a sport fighting art, Muay Thai is one of the most effective striking arts primarily because they keep it simple and do ALOT of hard sparring.
The main weakness I see, aside from the lack of grappling, is that Muay Thai assumes you are wearing boxing gloves so they don%26#039;t train any open hand techniques that would be better suited for the street.
For example if you punch someone in the head with thick boxing gloves on, you might knock them out or atleast down without doing any damage to your hand. In the street without boxing gloves on, you might still knock them out or down, but likely will hurt your hand. Many open hand karate techniques like palm, chops, etc. would be safer for the street.|||From a self-defense standpoint it does not offer a multitude of open-handed striking techniques to the facial area and eyes. Such techniques can be effective when wrestling and grappling with your opponent to give you more of a chance especially if you are smaller and weaker. Everyone has poked themselves in the eye at one time or another and just imagine now if I was striking directly into your eye with my finger tips grouped around my thumb for strength and support. Such techniques are not allowed in the UFC for good reason but yet are taught in many forms of karate and most people can not take a shot like that directly into their eye and not be temporarily blinded and distracted by the pain for a short period of time. Still Muay Thai is a good martial art in that stresses the use of knees and elbows as well as low kicks which allows fighters to more easily keep their balance, retract their kicking leg and get it back on the ground so that they can more easily and quickly follow up and continue to press the attack. That along with using knees and elbows for close in standup fighting allows fighters to fight at various ranges and so that is one of the reasons why it is so favored.|||Muay Thai is a very well rounded striking art, but no art is without its weaknesses.
Strengths: MT fighters train to use extensive use of knees and elbows (which are among the two hardest hitting strikes). Elbows really open up cuts and are brutal. Kicks with the shin are extremely practical, and they hurt. The Muay Thai clinch is the bread and butter of the style, in my opinion.
You can become proficient in Muay Thai under a good instructor in about six months to a year.
Conditioning is also a plus. You have to be in shape to do Muay Thai.
Muay Thai does teach throws and sweeps to a degree.
Weaknesses: This style is very hard on the body.
The older you get, the harder it is to take a beating.
Muay Thai is a sport, a bloodsport, but it doesn%26#039;t really teach much for self defense such as defense against weapons, multiple opponents, etc.
With any kicking art, when you do a kick, you are off-balance. If you are attempting a kick, and you get hit by a power punch, you%26#039;re going down.
Boxers have the best hands, no question. But, MT has more tools to offer. Of course, A MT kickboxer who trains in boxing will be better prepared, but with the arsenal of kicks, knees, elbows and clinch work, I don%26#039;t think it%26#039;s as important.
You could argue that Kyokushin or Sanda are as effective as Muay Thai.
Muay Thai is a very balanced style with brutal offensive techinques and good clinch work that meshes well with MMA. That%26#039;s why MMA stylists train in it.|||Muay Thai has a great flow to it, and is has a great arsenal, limited by the practioner. Muay Thai is called the science of 8 limbs, because, all limbs are used in the fight, again, the limit is the strategy of the striker.
Like all fighting styles MT is really dependent on the practioner and the determination with which training is done, one can have great strikes, but in sport MT, you have to be able to last for rounds.
MT is what it is, the oucome of the fight depends on the fighters.|||I%26#039;d say people favour it because it has a certain number of basic, but efficient moves to learn that suit MMA, where as the old styles of traditional martial arts such as Kung Fu (like Snake or Crane )would be less so. A draw back would probably be a lack of counter attacks and generally just %26quot;taking the hit%26quot; rather than getting out of the way. The fitness regime in getting ready to become a Muai Thai fighter will in itself help you to become a better fighter, as some other martial arts focus less on physical prowess and more on technique|||A muay thai expert would most likely get alot of punishment from a good boxer, as far as punching goes.
The muay thai stand is designed to be able to counter kicks and punches, but since most muay thai fighters have their hands a bit further from their body in order to block kicks, they are vulnerable to uppercuts from a good puncher like boxers.
Muay thai is a very effective striking art, and when you cross-train in Westen boxing, it becomes more complete.|||It%26#039;s weaknesses are that its core relies on kicks/knees. In MMA 9 out of 10 opponents are going to have wrestling backgrounds and have you ever tried kneeing someone while on your back? Not very effective.
You want a striking set that is better than Muay Thai? Simple...boxing.
How many fights have you seen finished with a kick? Real fights mind you, not Jean Claude or Seagall mincing around crane kicking everyone in sight. I can think of only a handful.
Now how many fights have you seen stopped by fists? Just about a good 75 to 85% of MMA matches end from good old fashioned punching.
Sure it%26#039;s not an exotic martial art, but effective accurate and powerful punching is the stuff of champions. Anyone who says different obviously hasn%26#039;t heard of Anderson Silva or Chuck Liddell.|||everyone thinks Muay Thai is the ultimate yet I have lived in Asia for over 5 years. Muay Thai fighters get wrecked by China%26#039;s San SHou team The tournament was embarrassing, China domnated Thailand sorry to brake everyones heart over this|||all other striking arts have more weaknesses :)|||MUAY THAI STRENGTHS (in a nutshell):
Muay thai training is excellent physical conditioning.
Muay thai techniques are simple (simpler techniques are more effective under pressure)
Muay thai techniques are honed and refined through competion. You practice landing techniques against an agressive, non-cooperative opponent every time in training.
You can be a relatively experienced fighter after only 6 months of training.
MUAY THAI WEAKNESSES:
Less effective as a martial art if you%26#039;re not very strong or fast, but still more effective than a non-competition based martial art for said weak person.
Becomes less effective as you get older and slower.
If you%26#039;re injured, sick or travel and stop training for a year, it can be difficult to get your conditioning back to its original level, especially if you%26#039;re past 30-35 years old.
Muay thai contests do not require ground-fighting skills, but most other mma contests do. Most people I know who train muay thai or %26quot;nhb striking%26quot; combine it with grappling/brazillian ju-jutsu.
Are there any styles that could match muay thai?
Muay thai is simply how the human body moves in a given set of conditions.
The rules of the competition directly shape the most effective techniques under those rules.
The rules of MT competition cause the style to evolve the most efffective techniques allowable under muay thai rules.
The rules of Judo competition cause the style to evolve the most effective techniues allowable under Judo rules.
What is the biggest difference between Judo and Brazillian ju-jitsu? The rules of the contest.
Judo (not ju-jutsu) was transplanted to Brazil. The rules of scoring point in competition were changed, and as a result the techniques evolved, shaped by competition, to the ones proven most effective at scoring points, and winning, under the new rules of competition. The rules of Brazillian ju-jitsu more closely resemble a %26quot;no-rules%26quot; scenario than the rules of judo do. But an experienced judo competitor is still more effective in the street than a dojp trained %26quot;traditional%26quot; martial artist who has never experienced a real, non-cooperative %26quot;opponent%26quot;.
Back to Muay Thai; it%26#039;s not based on the ancient teachings of great warriors of ages past, it%26#039;s based on the living experience of punchers and kickers who test themselves realistically every time they train. It%26#039;s proven every year in competition which techniques are most effective under pressure, full-speed, full power, (under the rules of Muay Thai competition). Any style such as NHB or Kyoku-shin kai that follows similar rules is going to evolve similar, if not identical techniques.|||I am a practitioner of Muay Thai. There are essentially no weaknesses to ANY style, only the understanding by the practitioner.
The reason that MT is the preferred striking art form of MMA is because it is simple! It essentially has only 7 different techniques and this compared to the thousands of techniques of more traditional arts is self explanatory :easier to %26quot;perfect%26quot; 7 than 1000.
But a closer look at different striking arts sees that most styles are almost the same; it is the actual student/fighter that is different. I Thailand, most fighters fight to put food in their bellies, so its a case of %26quot;do or die%26quot;. The competition is alot harder because of this. Also most of the fighters are teenagers or young adults. You never really see an %26quot;old%26quot; Muay Thai fighter. That%26#039;s because they destroy themselves in combat to the point that they cannot practice ANY exercise ever again. That is not the point of Martial study. I believe we need to study MA to help us in life%26#039;s journey.
But this sheer display of total brutality in combat is only popular because of the world%26#039;s knowledge of it in MT. However, there are much worse/better styles that display this kind of striking/fighting. The Philippines styles of combat also display this kind of brutality, that is known to most. They used weapons as well in their combat besides strikes, so this is not viable to MMA sport fighting. Likewise, any technique that is regaurded as %26quot;lethal%26quot; is not allowed in MMA sport. And for good reason. So the most %26quot;effective%26quot; brutal striking style would have to MT because it is also a sportt style, unlike its embryo Martial Art; Muay Boran.
What is also interesting is that there has been an on-going war between Muay Thai and Kung Fu since its earliest days. And the facts state that Mauy Thai has actually fallen from grace against San Shou/Da (the combat side of Kung Fu). In the begining MT dominated over both KF and Kyukushi Karate (full contact Karate) because of its %26quot;unorthodox%26quot; use of knees and elbows in competition. While other styles had them in their arsenal, they never used them in competition, and definately not to the extent that MT has. But once everyone started to catch on to the idea of incorporarting them into their sporting aresenal, it evened out the playing fields a bit.
So right now its not about which style is better than the other but rather which rules of the game you like better and which techniques are better suited for those rules.
The only weakness that MT has is its lack of real life or proper self defense techniques. It has evolved almost completely for sport use and no matter how much modern day MMA guys argue the point, MMA is a SPORT and is designed for one-on-one confrontation. The same applies to MT.
To answer the question above it is essential to understand that no art/style has weak techniques, only practitioners who can be weak at certain techniques.
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