Friday, May 21, 2010

Is there a way to simulate kicking palm trees to toughen the shins for muay thai?

Is kicking a heavy bag the same.. better, worse?|||its better





people dont kick palm trees well at least if they value their legs.





now in thailand thai boxers did kick banana trees. banana %26quot;trees%26quot; arent really trees its just a long stem which is why thai boxers used it, it was strong enough to kick however it also gives in when kicked, toughening their shins without causing damage





that being said unless you have a banana tree hanging around i suggest kicking a heavy bag, preferably a long or banana style heavy bag. most traditional heavy bags are made for punching and are pretty short, a thai/banana heavy bag almost touches the ground which allows you to do low kicks.





within time kicking the heavy bag will deaden your nerves in your shins for thai boxing|||I think kicking palm trees and crap like that is a bad idea. If you kick a bunch of solid stuff, you are going to start getting hairline fractures on your shin. That%26#039;s no good.





Stick with the heavy bag and walloping thai pads. It%26#039;ll toughen your legs up without breaking them. Plus, you%26#039;ll be getting your conditioning workout at the same time. Trust me, kicking something solid like a tree is not sustainable for a long enough period of time to give you a good workout. Plus, it just hurts.|||Umm, palm trees? Thats a bit silly. Heavy bag is better.You want to promote bone density but not tissue damage IMHO. Although, I have seen young people in a contest(in Thailand) to see who can break through a bundle of bamboo(young stalks tied together in about a 1 ft diameter). I have only seen that twice and it looked like it hurt(kids were between 8-10year olds).





(edit)- Banana trees? You folks watch too many movies. Here in Thailand,serious training is done on the bags.(even the poorest kid can duck tape a rice sack) My mother in law would beat me down with a broom stick if I started molesting her banana trees!!Even after she picked them!


There seems to be many things people do in the west to train that are not done Here in Thailand. We don%26#039;t role bottles on our legs, or hit them with sticks. We train hard,with bags and in the ring period. No mystical secrets(no secrets in martial arts at all)No exotic training and especially no self abuse.If you train properly and hard, you don%26#039;t have time or need for gimmicks. Many people don%26#039;t like my comments becuase they critisize other arts and ways. Thats because I am all about 100% REAL martial arts. No fake movie fantasy stuff, no mythical secrets, no magic, just 100% real training in a real art.Real is something proven to be true and effective, not told in old stories 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand.(thats my rant and I feel better:-)|||I have been practicing Muay Thai for 4 years now and have developed dense shins. Since day one what I have done is with a bamboo stick lightly beat my shins for a few minutes a day along with kicking a Thai bag. After the process you shins will be very sore after a while it just all goes away.





What you鈥檙e actually doing is making tiny breaks in your shin and when the break heals and calcifies it makes for a stronger shin bone.


|||ok first of all have you ever heard of body hardening? my advice is find a freind and practice together, just like the marines do, they just keep hitting each other. start with arms then chest, then legs. inner thighs kinda suck but anywho. also you should be protecting the bones that will hurt the most when broken. i.e. fingers hands wrists ankles and shins. so instead of kicking use knees and elbows close contact is better in a fighting situation. remember in a fight there are no rules go for blood rip their eyes out of socket if you have to. unless ofcourse you are learning for competition fighting where you cant use more than one martial art. but still the main key is hardening the whole body and adjusting your technique to protect the areas of your body in the case they get broken you will not be able to use them to protect yourself in the end.|||..... i wouldnt use a heavy bag, but what i have been thinking of doing is say get a nice 2x6 or something thicker than your typical 2x4.... then wrap a nice section with some type of burlap rope as tight as possible in the section you want to kick at ..... it wont be a comfy as the bag, but it should be a close to a palm like tree you could build your self|||Ancient Thai boxers used to condition their shins by kicking banana trees...which have softer rubbery trunks. Today kicking the heavy bag offers the same benefits. Unless it%26#039;s a young palm or one that has a similar soft texture, kicking anything harder will most likely cause injury. |||PALM TREES?! Ouch!





They use BANANA trees. They%26#039;re softer than other trees but they%26#039;ll still condition your legs. The bag would probably be a bit softer but it would still condition your legs. You can also take a stick and roll it over and tap your shins (lightly) to condition your legs.|||You can use a glass bottle to press very hard and roll up and down your shins to deaden the nerves and toughen up the legs for those kicks. I think you have watched Kickboxer one too many times though.|||I used to use escrima sticks on my shins to toughen them up. I%26#039;ve also been told that you can roll a glass bottle up and down on the shins for the same effect. Have Fun!!!|||Unless you want to make a living fighting full contact, you don%26#039;t want to damage your legs. it will have consequences when you grow older. |||Kick a heavy bag. Don%26#039;t go all-out to start with.|||kick wood polls or banana trees


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