Saturday, November 14, 2009

Which is more effective San shou or Muay thai?

Im male and I was wondering does Muay thai include throws? Can I use my Judo throws in Muay thai or San shou?|||It depends on what school of Sanshou you choose, some prioritize take downs for maximum points while other prioritize striking for simplicity, it%26#039;s a sport and sports require strategy. Muay Thai is universally united under one specific system, utilizing the same techniques, but Sanshou isn%26#039;t a recognized style, it%26#039;s just free sparring, the %26quot;Sanshou%26quot; classes normally taken in the U.S. would be a fusion of basic Chinese Boxing and Throws, it%26#039;s the competition that truly makes Sanshou %26quot;Sanshou%26quot;.





To elaborate on the many styles of Sanshou, I must explain the history, Sanshou started as just Lei Tai, a simple, deadly sport in which practitioners would use bare knuckles and no protection or weight classes, there was a high death rate and many times, there were also weapons sparring competitions, I suppose in a way, it was like Muay Thai%26#039;s older brother, Muay Boran. After the government banned private Lei Tai matches because of the overly high death rate, Lei Tai began to get organized, it turned into full contact Sanshou and become mostly a performance art, with choreographed movements and structured fights, but, in around 1980 (I don%26#039;t remember the specific year) the Zhejiang Provincial Sports Training Center turned Sanshou into a competitive sport, and so, due to the competition, Sanshou blossomed again, drawing many different competitors to compete and many styles to be represented, obviously, through this automatic survival of the fittest program, the most effective styles for the rules prevailed and was refined into the current common Sanshou curriculum.





Sorry for blabbing on about Sanshou, anyways, back to your question, you can%26#039;t really tell if the Sanshou school you%26#039;re going to is going to incorporate a lot of throws, it depends on if the founder was a heavy Shuai Jiao practitioner of an old school traditional Lei Tai practitioner that was heavy on striking, ask around the school. Muay Thai generally has throws but very little emphasis is placed on them due to the numerous rules of Muay Thai.|||They both do. Sanshou however uses a lot more throwing than Muay Thai and many of the throws and takedowns do resemble judo style, without gi of course. Muay Thai excels in fighting in the clinch, the range from where throws are also possible. The throws of Muay Thai are quite technical in that they involve a lot of imbalancing and leg sweeps.





Effectiveness is subjective so I can%26#039;t really say which is better for you. For me, Muay Thai would edge out over Sanshou simply for the fact that Thai boxers are much more dangerous in the clinch, with elbows and knees. Throws are nice but it won%26#039;t necessarily stop someone. Remember that in order to move in for a throw one needs to enter the clinch range and that%26#039;s where a Thai boxer is most lethal.|||That depends on where you live. Do your research. If your town has a higher reputation in Muay Thai or has better Muay Thai schools than Muay Thai is for you.





I live in England so I would recommend anyone else in england to do Muay Thai rather than Sanda because British Sanda is poor. Our country is better at Muay Thai. |||If you are a guy, why is there a female on your avatar?





If you like throws, you%26#039;d probably be better off with Sanshou, as muay thai has no hip throws, so it%26#039;s limited.





As far as effectiveness, either one will do, they are both really good.|||Muay Thai allows some throws from the clinch, but it%26#039;s not a big part of their offense. You can use just about any throw imaginable in San Shou. The overall effectiveness of either system will depend on how well you%26#039;re able to use it.

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